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  1. #501

    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    mao na. lain lain resulta. sa poll nga chan affiliated kay labaw si chan 70%. sa poll nga si radaza affiliated with kay labaw si radaza 82% ( sa deretso.com website) . Unya sa text message nga ga sige tuyok tuyok (samok gani kay daghan kaayo kaila nako ni send nako) kay si radaza 81% pud kunu. sa radyo ni ahong sa usa ka block timer kay si chan 75%. sa lain nga blocktimer nga ilaha pud kay 79%. sa kang radaza kay 82%.

    1) asa naman lang di ay si pelaez ani?

    2) murag ang kang radaza maoy consistent nga data

    3) ka chan wa mag ka dimao
    Ang online poll sa www.micropoll.com is an independent survey. The site is not owned or maintained by the Radaza or the Chan or Pelaez camp. And anyone can vote in it including "risingsun". With the deretso.com survey, using our common sense it would favor the Radaza's coz we don't expect supporters of Chan to visit the site.

    Whereas the Micropoll survey is online and transparent. So everyone is invited to vote online whether you are supporters of Pelaez OR Radaza OR Chan amd let your vote be counted online. Please visit this sit to vote: MicroPoll - Online Polls - Free Web Polls

    In fact this online survey was started last year as shown by the way the survey question was phrased.

    When you talk about the consistency of the Radaza survey, that's because they are referring to only one survey which is their survey so the figures is exactly the same. You won't expect the surver aired over the radio the radio by the Ahong camp to have EXACTLY the same figures/results as the MICROPOLL online survey because they are two different surveys and the micropoll survey is an independent one, but the trend is the same which is Chan is leading over the other candidates.

    So again I am inviting everyone to vote and let your voice be counted in this online survey from Micropoll : MicroPoll - Online Polls - Free Web Polls . . .

  2. #502
    Noynoy Aquino without Ninoy and Cory - is nothing.
    Manny Villar without Money - is nothing.
    Erap with everything - is still nothing.
    Gibo without GMA - is the best!

  3. #503
    lucky fortune,

    you invite users here to vote through the online micropoll link to make it seem independent. Aren't you misleading others here as that exact same micropoll is used in the Chan affiliated website We love MACTAN (currently has a big smiling face of Chan in the current blog entries). So obviously, using our common sense it would favor the CHANS coz we don't expect supporters of Radaza to visit the site.

    A trend of Chan leading is still a trend coming from the chan camp. self serving.

    secondly, online polls don't reflect a good cross section of the society.

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    mao na. lain lain resulta. sa poll nga chan affiliated kay labaw si chan 70%. sa poll nga si radaza affiliated with kay labaw si radaza 82% ( sa deretso.com website) . Unya sa text message nga ga sige tuyok tuyok (samok gani kay daghan kaayo kaila nako ni send nako) kay si radaza 81% pud kunu. sa radyo ni ahong sa usa ka block timer kay si chan 75%. sa lain nga blocktimer nga ilaha pud kay 79%. sa kang radaza kay 82%.

    1) asa naman lang di ay si pelaez ani?

    2) murag ang kang radaza maoy consistent nga data

    3) ka chan wa mag ka dimao
    talking about misleading, how the hell did you come up with a conclusion that Radaza mao'y consistent? and conclusively kang chan wa mag ka dima-o? pag chur oi, common sense.

  5. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    lucky fortune,

    you invite users here to vote through the online micropoll link to make it seem independent. Aren't you misleading others here as that exact same micropoll is used in the Chan affiliated website We love MACTAN (currently has a big smiling face of Chan in the current blog entries). So obviously, using our common sense it would favor the CHANS coz we don't expect supporters of Radaza to visit the site.

    A trend of Chan leading is still a trend coming from the chan camp. self serving.

    secondly, online polls don't reflect a good cross section of the society.
    Let us clarify things here to remove some misconception. First of all the link to the online poll is www.micropoll.com/akira/mpview/553126-146066 . For one to vote in it, he/she doesn't have to go to We love Mactan website you mentioned. But if the Chan camp adopted the link and put it in their website it does not make it bias or misleading, as common sense would dictate us. Unlike the poll of the Radaza camp where it is embedded in their website, there is no other way for those who want to participate in it but to visit the deretso website, as common sense would dictate us. And as the results would tell us, the Micropoll survey has different figures/results from the survey from the Chan camp. So it would strengthen the fact that the two are independent surveys.

    And lastly you said that "online polls don't reflect a good cross section of the society". Then can you explain the statement in your previous post that said "murag ang kang radaza maoy consistent nga data". You based these statement on the following:

    1. sa poll nga si radaza affiliated with kay labaw si radaza 82%

    2. Unya sa text message nga ga sige tuyok tuyok (samok gani kay daghan kaayo kaila nako ni send nako) kay si radaza 81% pud kunu

    3. sa kang radaza kay 82% (radyo).

    So if you say that "online polls don't reflect a good cross section of the society", then why that the online poll of the Radaza's (82%) is more less the same as the text message circulating (81%) and the radio announcement (82%) whick lead you to the conclusion that "murag ang kang radaza maoy consistent nga data" ?!?!?!

  6. #506
    hahaizt.. majority of the Oponganons esp. na tong sa mga suok2x like sa isla don't even know these online polls exist. one person could vote as much as he/she wants to just to make sure that the percentage of the candidate he/she choses is higher than the rest..baseless..

  7. #507
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianna View Post
    hahaizt.. majority of the Oponganons esp. na tong sa mga suok2x like sa isla don't even know these online polls exist. one person could vote as much as he/she wants to just to make sure that the percentage of the candidate he/she choses is higher than the rest..baseless..
    I agree with you on that, but on the other hand micropoll only allows one vote per IP address. You can try this yourself to prove if your statement that "one person could vote as much as he/she wants to just to make sure that the percentage of the candidate he/she choses is higher than the rest" is TRUE or NOT

  8. #508
    True the link is in micropoll. And it so happens, the Chan site decides to adopt it. The CHAN site is heavily visited. Who visits the Micropoll site? I would bet you 99% of the respondents voted through the CHAN site.

    Radaza's is consistent from the data presented. with in 81-82-83% range.(I'm not bothering to scroll up, just from memory). Which I assume, depending on their respondents would fall within the margin of error. Usually for political surveys, you have a 3-5% margin of error. Where as Chan's from radio to online is a wide gap. Since you are making up surveys anyway, why not just make it uniformed? lol.

    And everyone try this, go to the link above and vote several times. within a few minutes apart. It allows you to vote over and over.

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    True the link is in micropoll. And it so happens, the Chan site decides to adopt it. The CHAN site is heavily visited. Who visits the Micropoll site? I would bet you 99% of the respondents voted through the CHAN site..
    To date the deresto site has 9,380 site visits while the we love mactan has only 2,746, so which do you think is the most heavily visited site by by common sense?

    FACTS! FACTS! FACTS! Let us talk about facts here my dear "risingsun" and not BET like a gambler as some mayoralty candiates out there are. Do you have the facts to support your allegation that "99% of the respondents voted through the CHAN site"? .
    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    Radaza's is consistent from the data presented. with in 81-82-83% range.(I'm not bothering to scroll up, just from memory).
    Its you who isn't consistent . In your previous post you said that "secondly, online polls don't reflect a good cross section of the society" and now it contradicted your statement above that "Radaza's is consistent from the data presented". Considering the fact that one of the three sources of the Radaza camp survey is their online survey in their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    Which I assume, depending on their respondents would fall within the margin of error. Usually for political surveys, you have a 3-5% margin of error.
    Review your Statistics 101 my dear. There is no usual figure for political surveys on the margin of error. It based on a formula dependent on the following variables: the amount of variability within the sample, the degree of precision and the sample size.

    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    Since you are making up surveys anyway, why not just make it uniformed? lol.
    .
    Huh! No one is making up surveys here. The link is public and you can invite as many from the deretso camp to vote in it

    Quote Originally Posted by risingsun View Post
    And everyone try this, go to the link above and vote several times. within a few minutes apart. It allows you to vote over and over.
    Please read my previous post. For your convenience, I will repost it "but on the other hand micropoll only allows one vote per IP address". You can try this yourself.

    Maybe the Radaza camp survey is configured to allow multiple voting from one IP address and they are practicing multiple voting that's why you were able to made the statement above. LOL

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by lucky_fortune View Post
    Maybe the Radaza camp survey is configured to allow multiple voting from one IP address and they are practicing multiple voting that's why you were able to made the statement above. LOL
    risingsun's statement about multiple votes is illogical. he just doesn't have a clue what an i.p. address is. LOL!

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