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  1. #41

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!


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    lalakingbisdak: please keep the racist remarks to yourself.

  2. #42

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    mayta dili madayon oi.. i wish dili jud madayon.. i really hope dili madayon.. once mo dayon mo taas ang basic commodities(food and tanan butang) then mo sugot na ang mga jeepney drivers mo saka ang plete kay nisaka naman ang sweldo.. watcha think? tabla ra gihapon noh?
    Dili jud ni siguro madayon kay wala man madayon ang 3rd and 4th reading. Gi moved pa sa July ang next session ani. I doubt madayon ni kay the Philippine Chinese Chamber of Commerce against ani except ang mga western companies, ok ra nila.

    Quote Originally Posted by lalakingbisdak
    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    next three years hoping will have a civil war..
    If these happens, unahon nako tanan nga mga chinese people nga naa dire sa pinas.
    Sorry about this post. Thanks.

  3. #43

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    ngano dumot man kaayo ka sa mga chinese?
    ok ra sa western kay dollars man ila wat bout mga pinoy businessmen? nagagad man mi sa peso...

  4. #44

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize2k6
    Quote Originally Posted by marke
    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    mayta dili madayon oi.. i wish dili jud madayon.. i really hope dili madayon.. once mo dayon mo taas ang basic commodities(food and tanan butang) then mo sugot na ang mga jeepney drivers mo saka ang plete kay nisaka naman ang sweldo.. watcha think? tabla ra gihapon noh?
    I was dismayed by this post. I know this guy is learned, a respectable businessman. He can do better than that.

    You pray that the workers will not receive a raise? The worker who give life to your business? I am just wondering people could eat well and sleep well in the comfort of their homes while their workers are underpaid and overworked. Lets be realistic right now. Their pay can hardly tide them to the next pay.

    I dont understand. People in this country hate rallies or insurgent groups. People in this country talk about unity and cooperation, " Magkahiusa ta instead nga magbinirahay ta paubos" or "lets make a sacrifice for our country, enough of politics." Yet here comes the first test of that unity and here they are unwilling to make a little sacrifice for their fellow men.

    Please treat your workers as partners in your business and not as slaves. It has been banned hundred years ago. Help their families too. Help them also to live a dignified life with a wage of a decent man. Do not exploit their misery by threatening to lay them off if they ask for an increase. Its normal. Or shall I suggest you change roles so that you can feel what they feel with the small pay they got.

    I hope I made myself clear.
    On the business side, lestat does have a point.Â* When an expense goes up to the point that the buffer allocated for the product is reduced dramatically, there is no other way but to increase prices. And an increase of an additional 125 pesos per employee per day will do so. This does not only affect a company but it's suppliers as well creating a vicious cycle.

    While companies would want to help their employees by raising their quality of life, there are factors that should also be considered.Â* This is what seems to escape the thoughts of many.Â* While the employees are a major factor, there are the expenses (operating expenses,utility bills, taxes, etc.) and payments that have to be made to its suppliers as well.Â* Top this with competitors whose only aim seems to be to bring down their prices to monopolize the market.

    Increase in expenses with little profit margin due to current market prices surely means doom for a company. What good would a closed down company be to an employee?

    If businesses do not increase their prices to compensate for the extra expense brought about by the salary increase, how will the business survive?
    On the other side, with increase salary, people will have more spending power. They could spend more which ultimately will be good for business.

    Whats the ideal ratio of profit vis a vis expense occured for the production of the goods. The issue boils down to how much profit ceiling will businessmen want to retain.

    What business is objecting is the reduction of their profit margin. But as to whether they could absorb salary increases, I think thay are fully capable.

  5. #45

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    ngano dumot man kaayo ka sa mga chinese?
    ok ra sa western kay dollars man ila wat bout mga pinoy businessmen? nagagad man mi sa peso...
    Di man ko dumot sa chinese. Im just wondering why they are opposing all good things for their workers. It seems like they dont want their workers to have a good life. They want their workers to feel like what they have in china right now. Not enough income to survive and all that stuff. Tan awa aning salary increase, kinsa man ang number 1 oppose ani but the Chinese Chamber of Commerce. I hope dili lang huna hunaon sa mga chinese businessmen/women ang ila bulsa. What about us, the minimum wage earners? I hope Filipinos will welcome western investors than the chinese kay mas they treat us humanly.

  6. #46

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    ngano dumot man kaayo ka sa mga chinese?
    ok ra sa western kay dollars man ila wat bout mga pinoy businessmen? nagagad man mi sa peso...
    I even prefer to work with a Japanese or Korean companies than chinese.

  7. #47

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Have you thought of the number of SMEs that may close down because of this? These SMEs are the lifeline of our workforce. As it is, a good number of SMEs are already having a hard time coping. Now, let's do a little math:

    For every SME, let's say there are at least 10 employees. Let's say this company earns about 1M a month.
    Now because of the salary increase, they will now have to spend (125.00 x 26 days x 10 employees) P32,500.00 extra per month or 31%. SSS, Pag-ibig and PhilHealth employer's contribution is not included. Imagine, 31% extra expense.

    What is the ideal profit? Ideally it would be at 100% but in reality, most SMEs companies only earn about 20% - 50% gross, I know some companies that only earn at 10%. And what is the sense of putting up a company if you're earning less than 10% gross and yet you'd have to shell out 31% extra?

    If you want the company to survive, where would you get this 31%?

    Obviously this would have to be passed on to the consumer.

    Therefore, what purchasing power will there be when the same amount will be passed on to the consumer?

    or close down the company leaving 10 new members to the unemployment statistics.

  8. #48

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    wats ur job and wer do u work lalakingbisdak? murag how u talk nagsalig man ka og something

  9. #49

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Quote Originally Posted by marke
    ...
    On the other side, with increase salary, people will have more spending power. They could spend more which ultimately will be good for business.

    Whats the ideal ratio of profit vis a vis expense occured for the production of the goods. The issue boils down to how much profit ceiling will businessmen want to retain.

    What business is objecting is the reduction of their profit margin. But as to whether they could absorb salary increases, I think thay are fully capable.
    More spending power? This unconscionable wage hike could only drive up inflation, since labor costs would also go up. So much for spending power.

    Mind that I am not against a wage hike, but a reasonable one must be determined by the regional wage boards, balancing the interests of workers with the capacity of their employers to increase compensation. Non-wage benefits can also be considered to increase the spending power of the workers.

    Again I say, if this legislated wage hike is implemented, it will kill small and medium enterprises that cannot yet afford the wage hike. This cannot be good for our economy, and this cannot be good for workers who stand to lose their jobs. SMEs employ a large portion of our labor force, and their demise could cause economic pandemonium.

    What business is objecting is the reduction of their profit margin. But as to whether they could absorb salary increases, I think thay are fully capable.
    No doubt rich companies are capable of sustaining the salary increase, and mainly object to the reduction of their profit margin. But AGAIN, IT IS NOT RICH COMPANIES THAT WILL BE HARDEST HIT BY A LEGISLATED WAGE HIKE! if you have paid attention to my previous posts on this. It is SMEs who are still struggling to survive amidst soaring oil prices, and it is the many workers who will surely lose their jobs, and it is us who will be affected by the resultant higher prices of commodities.

  10. #50

    Default Re: 125 accross the board approved!

    Ayala Mall pagka karon. End ko work next month kay lagot ko gamay sweldo.

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