FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[peg]

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the thread started out as an interseting read..
but for the last few posts.. nahimo na man ug nonsense...

arte nya oi... jok jok jok ra gani ta... gimingaw man ko og spaghetti gud mao na nga hisgot ko og mami.

mas interesting if mo try ka... makakita ka ni mixmuzix.. alien rba na... kuyaw lng kay ma amnesia nya ka hehe bitaw, kahadlok ana oi... joke lang na oi.

[BeoR]

WARNING: Continue making off-topic posts and I won't hesitate to ban you.

[mannyamador]

i already answrd you question and askd some Masons (higher bodies and 32nd degree)...Freemasonry doesnt teach indfrntsm...they dont believe that all religion is pleaing to God.

Of course that depends on how you phrased the question. I expected this kind of answer from you. So let's have a follow-up question: Since they claim that they do NOT teach that all religions are equally pleasing to God, then WHICH religion is most pleasing to God?

I expect there to be many answers, and even more non-answers. But since freemasonry has already fragmented, we have to rely on general principles. The fact remains: freemasonry has taught indifferentism. Whether your superiors in a particular lodge admit it, or even know of it, is not the point, A particular lodge may be ignorant of the principles of freemasonry and may even be lax (just as some priests are ignorant or lax). But in general, freemasonry's documented and admitted principles still advocate indifferentism, and as such freemasonry is a forbidden society to Catholics. All Catholics who become freemasons are excommunicated automatically. And nothing you or your freemason superiors say will change that truth.

[Archer sensAtion]

tan-awa wa jud lagi..gahi kaayo pasabto ni cya...ambot nlang...

EX-COMMUNATED for what? indffrntism?...

now some FREEMASONS are IGNORANT what the...

Freemasons admitted?

ill ask them by friday...

but my answer: maybe, none...bcuz we or i cant just say that Catholic or Budhism is the most pleasing to God...it doesnt matter, its about you own faith to God...

Catholics have the right to ex-communicate?...why?...cuz they are superior and more powerful...SO HARSH!!!

[Jacks]

"Since they claim that they do NOT teach that all religions are equally pleasing to God, then WHICH religion is most pleasing to God?"

pangutana nimo as to which is more pleasing to God would become a a personal answer and would not reflect the group's belief as it has been said that they claim that they do NOT teach that all religions are equally pleasing to God [indifferentism]...

"The fact remains: freemasonry has taught indifferentism."

giingnan na man ka nga THEY DO NOT TEACH, kung di ka katuo ana, ayaw na lang sige pangutana kay wa may gamit ilang tubag sirado na man nang hunahuna nimo... you say "the fact remains:" niya kana nga fact gibasi ra na nimo sa imong sources og sa imong kaugalingon pagtuo, gistoryaan na ka'g tubag gikan sa usa ka member og tubag [which could be considered a fact], so unsa may pasabot ana di siya katuohan?...

kung mao nang storyaa, ayaw na lang tubag archer, usik usik lang kas imong efforts... kung ang taw bungol, nganong imong mang padunggon, kung ang taw buta, nganong imo mang pakit-on...

"And nothing you or your freemason superiors say will change that truth."

aw naa ra man diay na manny, so unsa pa may gamit sa imong pagsige pangutana nga di na man kaha diay na mausab ang naa sa hunahuna nimo nga gitawag og truth?...

"Catholics have the right to ex-communicate?"

sus kung mao nay situation gyud, kakuyaw ra gud diay... o tingali si manny ray gastorya ana...

[blackwidow]

Hello Jacks,
Exactly! There's no point reasoning out to a bunggol and or buta nga person.

[omad]

went to Galveston, TX last week and took this picture on a Freemason lodge:
[img width=500 height=412]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/omad_okoy/DSCN1299.jpg[/img]
the marker says "BIRTHPLACE OF SCOTTISH RITE MASONRY IN TEXAS. MAY 15, 1867"

and I've also got a simple question: is everybody allowed to enter these lodges? is it by invitation only? or is it just for members.. just curious.. :mrgreen:

[i_a_m_d_e_d_e]

The bottom line: The Catholic Faith and freemasonry are IRRECONCILABLE.

i think this is all what manny is saying.. he is not in this thread to ask questions about freemasonry really.
i think he already knows what he needs to know.

[mannyamador]

EX-COMMUNATED for what? indffrntism?...

Of course. It's like saying a Christian can be excommunicated for not believing in Christ. Why should one stay in a church when he does not believe in that church's teachings?

but my answer: maybe, none...bcuz we or i cant just say that Catholic or Budhism is the most pleasing to God...it doesnt matter, its about you own faith to God...

That doesn't make sense.

Catholics have the right to ex-communicate?...why?...cuz they are superior and more powerful...SO HARSH!!!

Any church has the right to excommunicate. Churches are private organizations and have every right to determine their membership.

[Archer sensAtion]

@Manny:

we believe in Church's teachings, who sez that we dont believe? as a DeMolay i still belive in God, and im a Catholic...

it make sense...

...private organization?...hehe...so are you sure that the Church's speculation about Freemasonry is true? what if they are the doing doing the "FREAKY THING"...not the Masons...

dig that playa...