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    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.1 View Post
    Magmeasure ko ug tubig sa kabo para magluto ko science diay na? I take note how much I used so I can tell another cook to use the same amount. If nagbuot siya ug iyahang size sa kabo magkabulyaso ang niluto.
    Your point is valid, re measurements. Unfortunately, you cooking example or analogy is a bit skewed. The measurement part is indeed in the realm of mathematics--however, when you said "so I can tell another cook to use the same amount", that statement already delves in measurement as a tool, just like science is a tool. When the ancient Greeks realized that a certain methodology or process was needed in order for one method to work exactly the same way (i.e. recipes for cooking) from one person to another, then the scientific method was born.

    Let's take experimentation. The point of experimentation is, if an experiment can be replicated over and over and over and over and over again, with the same results, then its obvious that your findings will hold true the next time the experiment is repeated. Similarly, if you measured a cup of water to properly cook rice, that act of measurement (again, while indeed in the realm of mathematics) in order to communicate or pass on the information about the proper measurement so that someone will not commit the same mistake, is indeed science.

    -RODION

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    nalingaw ko basa2X.

    ayaw tawn dad-a sa extremes oi.


    OT

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    aw bat na mute xa.. online kanina yan heheheh.. nice ayo inyo gpangstoryahan... i really learn a lot in this house...

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    a measurement is just a form of standardization for ease of communication among peers. So basically it's a consensus like what tokidoki stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    a measurement is just a form of standardization for ease of communication among peers. So basically it's a consensus like what tokidoki stated.
    its the same as numbers and formulasa its base on something to represent something. without measurement we will never understand these basic component of physics; distance, depth, quantity and even estimate.

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    ^ sakto. which is math.. fact.
    science uses math.. fact
    does math use science ?? yes.. logic. (sakto ko? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambutan View Post
    ^ sakto. which is math.. fact.
    science uses math.. fact
    does math use science ?? yes.. logic. (sakto ko? )
    pakapin..

    math, numbers are concrete..
    facts can be made..
    concrete can be made..

    sa laktod nga pagkasulti,___..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambutan View Post
    ^ sakto. which is math.. fact.
    science uses math.. fact
    does math use science ?? yes.. logic. (sakto ko? )
    solution itself is scientific in a form which can be verified by way of method

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Let's take experimentation. The point of experimentation is, if an experiment can be replicated over and over and over and over and over again, with the same results, then its obvious that your findings will hold true the next time the experiment is repeated.
    true if you're not assuming expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Similarly, if you measured a cup of water to properly cook rice, that act of measurement (again, while indeed in the realm of mathematics) in order to communicate or pass on the information about the proper measurement so that someone will not commit the same mistake, is indeed science.
    controlled subjects:
    1. amount of water
    2. type of rice

    therefore, science is case to case basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joserizal View Post
    true if you're not assuming expectations.
    An assumption is called a hypothesis and is part of the scientific process. When one expresses a hypothesis, this hypothesis is just a reference/starting point, and doesn't necessarily mean the truth, or an AIM by the experimenter, to achieve.

    Quote Originally Posted by joserizal View Post
    controlled subjects:
    1. amount of water
    2. type of rice

    therefore, science is case to case basis.
    If an experiment done in say, Sweden, had different/contrasting results with other identical experiments done in hundreds/thousand other parts of the world (and all these others were consistent with one another), then either a) the Swedish experiment was done improperly or b) the Swede experimenters tampered with the experiment.

    This is the beauty of the scientific method--you can always check results with that of other experimenters, and chances are, if it doesn't conform with the majority of the findings then there is definitely something wrong with the way the experiment was carried out. In other words, if daayon, dali ra masakpan.

    -RODION

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