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  1. #11

    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post
    kung positive ion na ang usa ka copper wire, naa bay tendency nga manuyop na xa og electrons sa laing element nga makigcontact sa iyaha?
    my answer on this is yes..
    suyopon niya ang free electrons from the source, then pass. mao ni ang ON state.
    ig OFF na, katong electrons nga wala mapass, maiya nato. so mr. copper will remain copper.

    picture2x pod ta gamay para colorful ni nga thread;


  2. #12
    where there is current
    there is an electron flow

    once electron moves, it leaves a hole.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ethzneuron View Post
    my answer on this is yes..
    suyopon niya ang free electrons from the source, then pass. mao ni ang ON state.
    ig OFF na, katong electrons nga wala mapass, maiya nato. so mr. copper will remain copper.

    picture2x pod ta gamay para colorful ni nga thread;

    heheh salamat sa pics brader...hehehehee...
    pero bahin og battery naman gud ni nga electrons... ang akong gusto mahibal-an kay bahin og atoms..... like kung idikit na nimo ang positive ion nga wire sa normal nga wire, suyupon ba niya ang unpaired electrons sa normal wire (kung naay unpaired electrons ang normal wire)?

  4. #14
    e google lang yan!

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post
    heheh salamat sa pics brader...hehehehee...
    pero bahin og battery naman gud ni nga electrons... ang akong gusto mahibal-an kay bahin og atoms..... like kung idikit na nimo ang positive ion nga wire sa normal nga wire, suyupon ba niya ang unpaired electrons sa normal wire (kung naay unpaired electrons ang normal wire)?
    hi hizuka007..ang akong masulti lng is that first of all lisod ug himo ug positive ion nga "wire" since a metal ion is unstable and it will immediately form compounds with the surroundings(e.g. a positive iron ion will combine with oxygen to form rust)..
    Ionic Bond - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    if madikit sad nmo ang duha ka wire kay dli na makasuyop ang positive ion nga wire ug electron since the positive charge of a metal is not strong enough to attract outside electrons due to electron shielding..
    WikiAnswers - What is electron shielding

    and finally,the valence electrons of metal atoms are "free electrons" only within the structure/lattice of the metal objects meaning they can move from one atom to another but can't fly off or go out of the metal object unless applied by an external force(voltage) which produces a current within the metal object..These "free electrons" are the reason why metals are ductile and malleable because their atomic structure is not very rigid due to the free-moving valence electrons..

    Hope that helps..

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by neoraising
    hi hizuka007..ang akong masulti lng is that first of all lisod ug himo ug positive ion nga "wire" since a metal ion is unstable and it will immediately form compounds with the surroundings(e.g. a positive iron ion will combine with oxygen to form rust)..
    ah mao ni akong gipangita nga answer...hehehehe..... dili lang sa ko mobasa aning sa wiki kay dili pa nako madigest sa karon..hehehe..

    so mausab jud diay ang itsura sa element (rust na).


    salamat bossing!

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post
    ah mao ni akong gipangita nga answer...hehehehe..... dili lang sa ko mobasa aning sa wiki kay dili pa nako madigest sa karon..hehehe..

    so mausab jud diay ang itsura sa element (rust na).


    salamat bossing!
    naunsa na man ni ui. nagpataka na man lang tubag ang mga tawo.

    "unsay mahitabo sa wire kung mahimong positive ions na tanan atoms niya? (wala nay valence electrons)
    mausab ba ang itsura? mo-disintegrate ba ang iyang chemical bonding (kung naa)?"

    then mura na-satisfy ang TS --- "so mausab jud diay ang itsura sa element (rust na)."

    toinks, gi-tuyok2x ra mo ilad sa TS. by the way, kasagaran wire (kay mao man ang gi-storyahan, about sa current nga mo-flow sa wire) dili made of iron, instead, copper ang metal nga naa sa wire. ang copper dili mo-form ug rust kung ma-oxidize. and TS, klaruha ra gud unsa imo gipangita, kay mura jud wala kay lingaw, nag post2x lang ka for the sake nga naa kay ma-post. the flow of electricity along a conductor has nothing to do with OXIDATION. kung mo-agi ang kuryente sa imo wire, dili mausab ang element (in this case, copper). walay OXIDATION nga nahitabo while nag flow ang kuryente sa wire. ngano libog-libogon man nimo imo utok.

  8. #18
    TS, read nalang diri sa wiki..
    Valence electron

    2 topics;
    1. Valence electrons in chemical reactions
    2. Valence electrons and electrical conductivity

  9. #19
    ang circuit pareha ra gud na sa tubig nga miagi sa hose.

    ang tubig gikan sa baril suyopon sa pump unya ibalik ra sa baril.

    ang electrons sama sa tubig nagbalik-balik ra sa sulod sa circuit.

    in other words, when the current stops because the voltage is removed, no atom is missing an electron.

    just visualize a trip to jerusalem game where everyone has a seat to sit on and no chair is ever removed.

  10. #20
    Thanks for the informations!

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