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  1. #1041

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee
    Again how can humanism solve those starvation problem hooters? Or do you prefer to wait for god to do something about it and blame him if he doesn't come?

    Quote Originally Posted by h00ters
    40,000 starving children die every day.

    again, where is your god?
    it's not that easy considering the millions of religious wackos whose god still haven't done anything for these starving children they keep having and couldn't even afford to feed.

    do you know what humanism is? (http://www.rthoughtsrfree.org/sfwdefinhum.htm) read and discern. no pressure. you're still free to believe your superstitions and continue the parochial mentality.



  2. #1042

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador
    Quote Originally Posted by h00ters
    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador
    And so where is hooters' humanist solution and analysis of starvation in the world? How does non-belief make the situation any better?
    It DOESN'T.
    sure. why don't we start with the ********ing pinoy katoliks who don't believe in contraception...who keeps having babies...don't worry about feeding them...god will provide, right?Â*
    puhleaze!Â* Â*
    A non-answer eh? It just goes to show your arrogant nutcase philosophy has no answers either.
    ayayay. i guess i have to spell it out to you...

    understanding nature, human beings, the universe as opposed to supernaturalism? example, do you honestly believe we would have advanced medically if we let religion (which they have always done in history) hinder the learning process? again the example of contraception i just stated - how dare these people who cant afford to feed babies keep having children. how dare them think they have the right to birth babies and let them suffer because of their biga^ mapugngan pa'ng baha^. what is so wrong with thinking rationally, logically, responsibly than just having faith, blind faith, because god will provide. well now has he?

    anyhoo, i do believe that people are capable of being good without a god. and secondly, i believe science and reason are the best tools for understanding our world, not superstition, supernatural beliefs and blind faith. so there. we'll just have to agree to disagree. coz i'm not buying what you're selling.


  3. #1043

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    Quote Originally Posted by samokan
    kay naa man sab politika ang relihiyon
    From history, we all know it's more than that.
    Organized religion, thanks to politics.

  4. #1044

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    Quote Originally Posted by h00ters
    huh? i'm now intolerant and prejudice because heysus hasn't showed up on my doorstep yet? after 2006 years and counting? are you lost or are you lost?
    Uh, it's because you suddenly think you know better than the rest of us, and act like a boor while you're at it.

  5. #1045

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    Quote Originally Posted by h00ters
    it's not that easy considering the millions of religious wackos whose god still haven't done anything for these starving children they keep having and couldn't even afford to feed.
    Excuses, excuses. No asnwer, so pass the buck. Yeah right. What a lamer!

    By the way, the Catholic Church and other churches has done more to feed, clothe, and care for the poor than all your brain-dead secular organizations combined. All you do is rant like some boor while the Church actually cares for people.

    And so, where's your "humanist" solution to global starvation? None? I thought so.

  6. #1046

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    Question to all...Someone mention here (I forgot who that was)...sayzz that the Catholic Faith is the one true Religion & if you are not a Catholic you wont be saved?


  7. #1047

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spec-V
    Question to all...Someone mention here (I forgot who that was)...sayzz that the Catholic Faith is the one true Religion & if you are not a Catholic you wont be saved?
    It is the one, true religion, but as for the second part of that claim, it's not accurate. Here is the official stand of the Church on those in other religions, as expressed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (important parts in bold and red):

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

    "Outside the Church there is no salvation"

    846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated
    positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

    Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on
    earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is
    present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith
    and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter
    through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic
    Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to
    remain in it.

    847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

    Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who
    nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will
    as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.


    848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of
    the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also
    the sacred right to evangelize all men."

  8. #1048

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    Exclusivity when championed promotes contentiousness and bigotry.....

  9. #1049

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    I'm sorry to say this but most of the Roman Catholic defenders I know are arrogant, know-it-alls and discriminating people...... Perhaps I haven't met Mother Teresa or Pope John Paul II, but even my history teacher in school agrees that defenders of the faith of billions are one of the most arrogant people who walk the earth....

  10. #1050

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBiddle
    I'm sorry to say this but most of the Roman Catholic defenders I know are arrogant, know-it-alls and discriminating people...... Perhaps I haven't met Mother Teresa or Pope John Paul II, but even my history teacher in school agrees that defenders of the faith of billions are one of the most arrogant people who walk the earth....
    Does this imply that your history teacher says Mother Teresa or Pope John Paul II, both promoters and defenders of the faith of billions, were arrogant people?

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