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  1. #91

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhero View Post
    kani pud dili diay ni therapeutic claim?
    I don't really know what you understand about "No Approved Therapeutic Claim." In fact, a lot of those that bear the disclaimers are more effective than the drugs sold in the market, simply because they are not synthetic or their ingredients are far more acceptable by the body.

    Besides, I never said my lolo was cured by Alive. In fact, he hasn't gone any more tests yet. But our family is attributing a huge improvement of his illness to Alive, especially if we are going to compare his state of being the moment he left the hospital and started taking the tablets. For one, he doesn't know he's taking it. Second, he doesn't have an idea my lola was already not giving him the medications all the time. Before he could not eat, sleep well, talk properly, and walk. Now, my lolo just celebrated his 80th birthday and can ride on the treadmill. So if I were to attribute his supposed improvement to the drugs the doctor has been giving him, which actually have a long list of side effects (my mom and I checked them), it would be a disservice to Alive and Nature's Way.

    TS herself, who has great apprehension and even disgust toward AIM, believes in the product. Otherwise, she would not be selling it.

  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by aim.global View Post
    My Conversation with my Supplier:

    Me: okies, by the way, will you not get into trouble if AIM finds out that you are selling ALIVE!, their banner product?

    Supplier: its a big issue actually, because they claim they are the exclusive distributor when in fact they are not. So they have no right or has any thing to do with my selling I have my own business name, I pay tax and my business is registered. I am a retailer. I am not a member of their networking company.
    I am not selling their product, they changed the packaging. I am selling what is the original that came from the USA, the original bottled alive packed in a carton of Nature's Way.

    Me: I see... thank you so much for that Sup

    Supplier: I can say I am able to help the consumer by getting an affordable alive, not like them, they are too expensive. People cannot afford the maximum dosage if they buy from AIM

    Me: It's just that I talk to a doctor friend who knows AIM and he suggested that maybe AIM will run after you... So thank you so much for clearing it up I strongly agree with that...

    Supplier: I have lots of customers already. I even have doctors customer. They still opt to buy regularly from me. AIM just wanted people to exclusively buy from them. I have nothing against them. They want to earn too. Just like me, I want to earn for a living too.

    Me: They are just too greedy.. That's my opinion

    Supplier: Yes, obviously they are! I am just a small time seller why they will run after me? And I am not their employee either. I am not their member. If they are exclusive they should have notified Nature's Way USA not me Nature's way is an open market anybody from all around the world can buy from them.


    Me: Well, you actually already answered that, my friend doctor's reason is because AIM has like the LICENSE/EXCLUSIVELY distributing the product


    Supplier: Nature's Way is multibillion company. They carry ten thousands of products.

    Me: That's right... I totally understand that, cause I can even see that there are some ALIVE that are sold in amazon.com... which just means that AIM is not its exclusive distributor here then


    Supplier: For any one or any country that want to get exclusivity from them, they should carry ALL their product. But AIM only carry alive, and another product. Yet, they changed the packaging and call it their own. How can you say it is exclusive. They just claim it, but the truth is they're not. You can even notice their alive, it has a dotted dark spots on their vcaps. You know what it is? Their vcaps already oxidized because it undergone exposure to heat and moisture prior to repackaging.

    Me: Really?

    Supplier: its for you to find out. Their alive came from usa by the bulk, they repackaged it in taiwan so it is exposed already from cold country to a humid country like ours in asia. what can you expect?

    Me: i see

    Supplier: I got my alive fresh and in sealed bottle, its not exposed unless you open it


    Me: actually, i am checking the alive from AIM here right now, it was given by my Global Ambassador friend who is now YOUR Distributor (converted), and I can really see some dark spots in their ALIVE

    Supplier: unlike the alive that came from them, it was repackaged into foil

    Me: so the 90V-Caps is in Bottle?

    Supplier: for retail purposes, being sold in the phils.Yes, the 90vcaps is in original packaging plastic bottle it is double sealed, with shrink wrap for your protection the expiry date is 9/2011, manufactured date is 9/2009


    Me: cool! may i ask how many V-Caps should I take per day? Cause I also wanna give it to my dad who has hypertension. how many V-Caps should i ask my dad to take?

    Suppllier: its case to case actually


    Me: is 1 vcap/day fine?


    Supplier: if you will use it as a multivitamin 1-2 vcaps is enough
    but for those who have ailments, like cancer they go up to 6 to 9 vcaps a day but for the first time consumer of this, it is adviceable to take it gradually as in you will need to adjust and adapt to your system first
    because some experience "shot gun" effect on them.


    Me: okies

    Supplier: so gradually introduce alive to yourself, then add some dosage eventually what i notice is that whatever is wrong with me, alive correct it

    Me: cool! and how did you take it for the first time? like 1 vcap/day for a month?


    Supplier: well yes you can start up with that if there is less effect on you, then add some dosage

    Me: okies okies..

    Supplier: anyway alive is all natural, it has no side effects. it is not a medicine, its food

    Me: that info is so useful.. I see

    Supplier: even the capsule is madefrom vegetable
    so it is safe to take in the liver

    Me: cool! By the way, if i wanna distribute your ALIVE here in cebu
    will that be fine with u?

    Supplier: alive is an extraordinary multi vitamin i tell you

    Me: you will be my supplier?

    Supplier: well by all means you can do that. surely just let me know

    Me: okies

    Supplier: i have other customers from cebu and bohol too
    even in palawan. cagayan de oro, mindanao, cavite, bataan
    its all around the philippines actually, i just ship it

    Me: I see, how about if people will ask me about BFAD and all that stuff...

    Supplier: regarding bfad, fortunately, the contents of alive was registered by AIM to BFAD so it has bfad registration already. No one can duplicate the bfad registration once it has already applied for it.

    Me: hahahahaha... i see...
    Is this the seller you recommended to me?

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by elmariachi View Post
    no matter how i defend or explain about ur negative claims about us..i can't do nothing with that..it's ur opinion..that's what u believe..

    but my conscience is clear.........
    clear imong conscience kay bias man gud imong panan-aw, wala ka kita nga almost ilad na na sa atubang inyoha, atimana pud nang 800% markup price.

    ang tarong nga negosyante miski unsa kadalo, dili pud ingon ana kataas mopasaka sa presyo uy. unya karon clear jafon na imong conscience miski kabalo nka nga MAHAL RA KAAYO na inyong gibaligya?

    kasabot man ta nga kinghanlan mo-ginansya ba, pero sobra pa man sa ginansya na inyoha uy unya pakapinan pag mga claims nga fantastic na kau paminawon.

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by darkhero View Post
    wala na nako tan-awa bro kay matalsikan ya kog laway.

    i thought u want answers?dat's ur prob...ur mind is closed..it's pointless to argue this..

    explain daw diri unsay naka-illegal kung mopalit diretso sa nature's way?
    i never said illegal to buy directly from Nature's Way..but importing of products coming from other countries..without going thru legal parties here in Phils..is considered illegal..

    try to put urself in AIM's shoe....u'l know d answers urself......common sense......

  5. #95
    mura ra man ug glorified albularyonism nang inyoha. cancer? c'mon, google for cancer cure, tan-awa naa ba ang ALIVE? si tomas osmena nga gi-cancer gani wala mopatuo ug herbal2x. kung tinuod pa na inyoha, nagpa-member na lang unta siya sa aim global, mosamot pa siya ug kadato kay times 8 gud inig baligya niya sa sobra


    bold ra kaayo na imong statement nga gi-connect nimo ang ALIVE sa CANCER, check daw unsa kalisod na ayohon sakita. ultimo mga genius maglisod man gani ayo. murag desperate na kaau nga statement kay gisalig na lang sa ALIVE ang CANCER nga ZERO man unta ang therapeutic claims.

    motivated by irrational enthusiasm nga maayo sa cancer - mao na akong tan-aw sa imong cancer statement.

    again, verifiable ba sa laboratory na inyong gipang-claim? unya worth it ba ang price sa product nga gi-set, nga naa may alternative, ang original or adto sa albularyo.

    This one is very offensive. You have no idea what my lolo went through and our family is going through, so you have no right to say that way. Glorified alburyanonism? Just thank God that your family is well enough, and you are healthy enough to lambast other people who are doing their best to help their loved ones achieve at the very least quality of life.

    And inasmuchas I wish you can feel the pain we are going through, I won't because it's the hardest thing you'll ever go through.

    Do I wish my lolo will be healed through Alive? Yes, we all wish for that, but we are not as close-minded as you think. If we believe na maayo lang cya sa purely Alive, we would have stopped all his other medications all together.

    Again, I never claimed he was cured or he can be cured. All I said or trying to imply is that Alive is giving him the quality of life he truly deserves.

    If you think I found my statement bold, I find it honest, because it's the truth. If you cannot eat it, then that's not my problem anymore.

  6. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by elmariachi View Post
    i never said illegal to buy directly from Nature's Way..but importing of products coming from other countries..without going thru legal parties here in Phils..is considered illegal..

    try to put urself in AIM's shoe....u'l know d answers urself......common sense......
    pag-sure uy, wala lagi ka mo-ingon pero implying man ka. pero cge na lang pagbigyan.

    kani daw, legal ba kung mopalit directly sa nature's way? yes or no ra. ayaw na ko tubaga ug laway please.

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    mura ra man ug glorified albularyonism nang inyoha. cancer? c'mon, google for cancer cure, tan-awa naa ba ang ALIVE? si tomas osmena nga gi-cancer gani wala mopatuo ug herbal2x. kung tinuod pa na inyoha, nagpa-member na lang unta siya sa aim global, mosamot pa siya ug kadato kay times 8 gud inig baligya niya sa sobra


    bold ra kaayo na imong statement nga gi-connect nimo ang ALIVE sa CANCER, check daw unsa kalisod na ayohon sakita. ultimo mga genius maglisod man gani ayo. murag desperate na kaau nga statement kay gisalig na lang sa ALIVE ang CANCER nga ZERO man unta ang therapeutic claims.

    motivated by irrational enthusiasm nga maayo sa cancer - mao na akong tan-aw sa imong cancer statement.

    again, verifiable ba sa laboratory na inyong gipang-claim? unya worth it ba ang price sa product nga gi-set, nga naa may alternative, ang original or adto sa albularyo.

    This one is very offensive. You have no idea what my lolo went through and our family is going through, so you have no right to say that way. Glorified alburyanonism? Just thank God that your family is well enough, and you are healthy enough to lambast other people who are doing their best to help their loved ones achieve at the very least quality of life.

    And inasmuchas I wish you can feel the pain we are going through, I won't because it's the hardest thing you'll ever go through.

    Do I wish my lolo will be healed through Alive? Yes, we all wish for that, but we are not as close-minded as you think. If we believe na maayo lang cya sa purely Alive, we would have stopped all his other medications all together.

    Again, I never claimed he was cured or he can be cured. All I said or trying to imply is that Alive is giving him the quality of life he truly deserves.

    If you think I found my statement bold, I find it honest, because it's the truth. If you cannot eat it, then that's not my problem anymore.
    And just to make it clear to you, darkhero, dili mi mukhang pera.

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    I don't really know what you understand about "No Approved Therapeutic Claim." In fact, a lot of those that bear the disclaimers are more effective than the drugs sold in the market, simply because they are not synthetic or their ingredients are far more acceptable by the body.

    Besides, I never said my lolo was cured by Alive. In fact, he hasn't gone any more tests yet. But our family is attributing a huge improvement of his illness to Alive, especially if we are going to compare his state of being the moment he left the hospital and started taking the tablets. For one, he doesn't know he's taking it. Second, he doesn't have an idea my lola was already not giving him the medications all the time. Before he could not eat, sleep well, talk properly, and walk. Now, my lolo just celebrated his 80th birthday and can ride on the treadmill. So if I were to attribute his supposed improvement to the drugs the doctor has been giving him, which actually have a long list of side effects (my mom and I checked them), it would be a disservice to Alive and Nature's Way.

    TS herself, who has great apprehension and even disgust toward AIM, believes in the product. Otherwise, she would not be selling it.
    ang aim global ni-ingon nga "No approved therapeutic claim!"

    ikaw niingon nga "My lolo is sick of cancer, and it helped him tremendously..."

    karon mangutana ko, unsa diay tawag ana imong gi-istorya? dba therapeutic claim mana? mao na dili nako makaon imong istorya kay nanakod ka sa uban. nag-hatag kag false sense of hope sa uban tawo unya mismo ang company nga imong gipalitan, wala manghambog nga makaayo na ilang produkto. lisod ba sabton?

    basin ikaw ang wala nakasabot ug therapeutic claim that's why you didn't know you just made one.

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by darkhero View Post
    ang aim global ni-ingon nga "No approved therapeutic claim!"

    ikaw niingon nga "My lolo is sick of cancer, and it helped him tremendously..."

    karon mangutana ko, unsa diay tawag ana imong gi-istorya? dba therapeutic claim mana? mao na dili nako makaon imong istorya kay nanakod ka sa uban. nag-hatag kag false sense of hope sa uban tawo unya mismo ang company nga imong gipalitan, wala manghambog nga makaayo na ilang produkto. lisod ba sabton?

    basin ikaw ang wala nakasabot ug therapeutic claim that's why you didn't know you just made one.

    what a mind?..pity on u bro...it's just a waste of time talking to people like u...

    @honey89, i advise not to respond anymore to this people...

    it's senseless!!

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    This one is very offensive. You have no idea what my lolo went through and our family is going through, so you have no right to say that way. Glorified alburyanonism? Just thank God that your family is well enough, and you are healthy enough to lambast other people who are doing their best to help their loved ones achieve at the very least quality of life.

    And inasmuchas I wish you can feel the pain we are going through, I won't because it's the hardest thing you'll ever go through.

    Do I wish my lolo will be healed through Alive? Yes, we all wish for that, but we are not as close-minded as you think. If we believe na maayo lang cya sa purely Alive, we would have stopped all his other medications all together.

    Again, I never claimed he was cured or he can be cured. All I said or trying to imply is that Alive is giving him the quality of life he truly deserves.

    If you think I found my statement bold, I find it honest, because it's the truth. If you cannot eat it, then that's not my problem anymore.
    kung naluoy pa ka sa imong lolo, wala nimo unta siya himoa nga example para lang naa kay ika-counter diri. ikaw ra nag-apil niya sa topic. imo siya gihimo nga proof para lang sa alive sa aim global?

    oh, usa pa pud diay, diin nga post nag-mention ko about niya? akong gi-igo kay imong claims about cancer, read my previous post para makasabot ka.

    basin nalimot ka aim global ang thread, dili about sa imong lolo. wala ko mamersonal. you're the one who's making the wrong assumptions.

    again kung tinuod na imong istorya, show me lab results to verify your claim. kung wala, aw hilom na lang ok? kay malain ra ba diay ka tubagon unya ikaw ra pud nag-open sa issue.

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