FREE MASONRY - the Principles

[Archer sensAtion]

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@mannyamador:

you say "we" because ur talking as a Catholic how about muslims?or other religions?if ingon ana man kaha so Catholic Church ang ganahan nga one religion, one government, one world...sila man kaha ang TRUE FAITH

all claims are not TRUE?...so "Catholic is the the TRUE FAITH" is not true...ang mo ingon ana mga priest or pastor ra man tingali...

we should not pretend?...so dont pretend na u knw perfectly about MASONRY...again DONT give me articles and PIKE!!!



you are pretending to believe...

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Freemasonry is a religion, no doubt. They profess something about God which is unique.Â* Not Christian.Â* When they meet, their conversation always talk about religion

---huh?? kung mag meeting mi...mag talk about religion...nag paila lang jud ka nga wa jud kay hanaw... ang amo agenda usually kay fund-raising para sa public oi...ayaw ra gud pataka ug sulti diha...

[mannyamador]

all claims are not TRUE?...so "Catholic is the the TRUE FAITH" is not true.

Can you read English? I said ALL claims cannot be all true. Don't try taking my posts out of context. That is a desperate attmept to try to score points, and itfails miserably. It just makes you look worse.

we should not pretend?...so dont pretend na u knw perfectly about MASONRY...again DONT give me articles and PIKE!!!

Pike was a freemason and he is respected as such even by freemasons today. Denying it makes you look like a liar. You should know better.

So, have you asked your superiors if freemasonry teaches that ALL regions are EQUALLY pleasing to God? Why are you so afraid to do so? Afraid of the trtuh? Stop making excuses and let's get to the bottom of this. Unless, of course, you are HIDING something!

[Archer sensAtion]

hiding on what?...maybe ur the one hiding...

ngano mag ask pa man ko,naa man ko didto...witness duh...

ikaw wala pa man...adto sa amo lodge...try to ask them...ill give u the address...

hadlok ka noh?... :mrgreen:

...so if mag buhat sad ko ug book about catholics nga naa sila rituals or something na bati...(ibutang lang nato ha) mo tuo kaha ka...catholic man ko...catholic skul ko gikan...kabalo ko dili...kay one-sided ka...

-play safe bai-

[mannyamador]

hiding on what?...maybe ur the one hiding...

So why haven't you asked your superiors about indifferentism?

It's easy. Just ask: "Does freemasonry hold or teach that ALL religions are EQUALLY pleasing to God?" What are you so afraid of, eh? Just go and ask.

[papa_roni]

OT: I would really not want to continue in this vein kay maparehas na sad ni sa uban threads...this thread should discuss Freemasonry and its Principles. Religion debates should be taken on the proper forums...in fairness to those who come to this thread expecting freemasonry discussion as what the title clearly states.

igsakto jud ni @ Gwynhuever, pasag di-i nalang ng mga tao nga SARADO ang pang huna huna. The thread was supposed to be "FREE MASONRY - the Principles" not "INDIFFERENTISM- the Principles". Lets talk about FREEMASONRY AND IT'S PRINCIPLES ky bitin kaayo da, as for indifferentism maybe fr.manny,desert father,etc...can take it somewhere else or open up a new thread for that topic i'm sure daghang WAY LINGAW ganahang makig lantugi ana nila.

[i_a_m_d_e_d_e]

i have a question, let's say freemasonry is a religion, who's better then- a bad cathlolic or a good freemason? (trying to make a point here)

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Respect does not mean you affirm that ALL claims are true. That is plain self-contradictory and irrational. NOBODY does that and we should not pretend to.

Isnt it funny to LOGICALLY FIGURE OUT that a CLAIM was made by the person who knows best here and the one AFFIRMING its " FACTS " are from a person who only basesÂ* its information from the net , articles and most of all .... the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA ? Plain BIAS reasoning and understanding .

FREEMASONRY is NOT a RELIGION .... SPRINGFIELDS CLAIMS ....tsk tsk tsk lets all get real here . I thought you are smarter than that . Again ... all my "silly claims" werent honored because I understand that it is nothing but an interpretation of your knowledge similar to VATICAN"s THREATEN MINDSET whom I dont really know why its THREATEN .

Why would someone also tell me to go to my superiors and ask them about INDIFFERENTISM . Its not that why would I but do I need to ? Are my answers not enough for your SILLY ACCUSATIONS ?? Like I said , you have to be one to know one . BTW ... research more of Albert Pike because the SILLY CLAIMS are getting interesting as the pages are turning for the thread . Lastly , can I tell you to go to your SUPERIORS or whoever your SUPERIORS are ?? ... and ask them :

WHY and WHAT ARE YOU ALL THREATEN OF from THE CRAFT that MADE YOU FANATICSÂ* THROW ALL KINDS of BASELESS ACCUSATIONS ??

You can go and ask them because I already answered your QUESTION regarding INDIFFERENTISM , it is a NO

I think I am really SILLY ... LOLZ because I already said that I said my piece and here you are still blabbing making a point that just makes you a SUPER KNOW IT ALL and here I am riding with your issues whom actually doesnt need no importance of attention because it is PURE SPECULATIONS ... becaudse my LOLO said so , the LODGE of my LOLOÂ* said so , because my neighbor saw it in an ARTICLE ....Â* LMAO !!

PASS the GRASS please .

@ ONINS ... bai , The Order of DeMOLAY doesnt need to be a working man as a member, actually it is a youth group for ages 17 to 21 if I am not mistaken . Archer said also that he is only 22 , I know a lot of Freemasons already that are only 22 years old . You dont have to be a professional man to become one , all you need is to be a GOOD CHRISTIAN and HONEST CITIZEN in the case for Christian people .

[BaDBoY]

i have a question, let's say freemasonry is a religion, who's better then- a bad cathlolic or a good freemason? (trying to make a point here)

consider the same question posed upon you? but this time "a bad freemason and a good catholic" . are all freemasons good?

[mannyamador]

Isnt it funny to LOGICALLY FIGURE OUT that a CLAIM was made by the person who knows best here and the one AFFIRMING its " FACTS " are from a person who only bases its information from the net , articles and most of all .... the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA ? Plain BIAS reasoning and understanding.

This is a logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well". Look it up.

Your argument also fails because you are making the unfoubnded claim that you "know best", which we DISPUTE. Why should we take your obviouslyt irrational arguments over credible articles and historical references?

Why would someone also tell me to go to my superiors and ask them about INDIFFERENTISM . Its not that why would I but do I need to ? Are my answers not enough for your SILLY ACCUSATIONS ??

No, your claims are NOT enough. You have to back them up. But instead you have displayed incredible ignorance of freemasonry itself, so why should we believe you? In fact, you even openly dec\lafed that you do not know much about it, so why in the world should we see you as credible?!!!

]You can go and ask them because I already answered your QUESTION regarding INDIFFERENTISM , it is a NO.

In other words, you are afraid to ask them.

WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO ASK YOUR MASONIC SUPERIORS ABOUT INDIFFERENTISM? YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY HIDING SOMETHING!

[Archer sensAtion]

@Manny Amador:

hinay2x lang diha oi...

nag ask nako nila... wala man daw ga teach ang freemasons ug ingon ana...(wala may mag wali if naa meeting)... mga higher bodies nato ang uban ako gi ask, ang uban 32nd degree,order of the eastern star members...nag wonder sila asa daw na gikan nga chika?...hmmmmpphhh

-kabalo ko unsa imo i-yubag...they are not telling the truth...ug mao man gani na...hala close this thread nalng...hehehe

-how stupid noh to ask that question?...haha...for the sake nlang ni Manny Amador...para ma clear jud ni...