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  1. #401

    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    seriously though, no sarcasms now, with this latest calamity in Chile; if God is there, why the heck did he allowed for it to happen Can he still be innocent on that ??
    Are you saying then bro that God exists, but He allowed what happened in Chile to happen; or because of what happened in Chile, it is somehow a proof that God does not exist?

  2. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    because bro, remember, it is his WILL. if we come to think about it, GOD is not really innocent, because according to some, GOD "allowed" it to happen. hence, to say that "GOD is innocent" is an understatement.
    So you're saying that God is guilty because He allowed what happened in Chile and in Haiti to happen? Doesn't that amount to saying that God cannot possibly have any good reason for allowing evil and suffering?

    if we say that there was a major disturbance in the inner surfaces of the earth that caused it to violently shake would make more sense than saying "GOD DID IT".
    Wait, are you now saying bro that God didn't do it, that He wasn't really responsible for the earthquakes, that those were really just natural phenomenon and that what happened wasn't really evil? But a moment ago you said that God is not innocent?

  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Wait, are you now saying bro that God didn't do it, that He wasn't really responsible for the earthquakes, that those were really just natural phenomenon and that what happened wasn't really evil? But a moment ago you said that God is not innocent?
    good point. seems confusing...

  4. #404
    Why you blamed God for what had happened...

    aren't also humans responsible?....

  5. #405
    Then how could one say that God is guilty?, for if he really wishes to control everything then he should make everything as ideal as it should be. Are we not free to do anything we wish? even free to think anything we wish?. I do believe that he only watch and try to know if we follow what he ought us to learn, to be righteous. We are censured before in the garden of Eden, we became sinners, and it's up to us now to go back to God's graces.We should overcome the obstacles and the devil with it's wrath causing calamities and hardships is a part of that obstacles towards God.IMHO.

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    .. let me add to that, they will always say: IT'S GOD'S WILL ... swhing. ding ding ding.


    .. seriously though, no sarcasms now, with this latest calamity in Chile; if God is there, why the heck did he allowed for it to happen Can he still be innocent on that ??
    innocence due to ABSENTEEISM. he/she/it wasnt there...not looking good for that omnimaxness thingy though.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Are you saying then bro that the leaders of the Church are deranged or malevolent?
    how do you know they are what they claim to be? how do you know they're not?

    and you pull out the faith card...

    how different is that from those who drank the kool aid mix to the last drop?

  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by [PROTOTYPE] View Post
    God cannot be proven either INNOCENT or GUILTY

    why?

    because GOD is responsible for everything. just don't think too much about the death of many people in Haiti and Chile. It happened to provide OPPORTUNITY for others to DO GOOD. why? because much of society is working for their own benefit rather than for others. the mere fact that many people are helping the oppressed means that there is INDEED a GOD who is willing to help the people for their own salvation. don't think too much about the dead... their souls are already prayed for.
    Exactly...we the living usually thought that the dead are pitiful in their grave but it seems the other way around. We decried those who are already free while too blind to see those right in front of our noses...beggars on the street, homeless kids, old and alone people etc...
    ..

    It takes something terrible to happen for some people to feel and see again.

  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkish View Post
    I dont know why God would allow these sufferings. If He created us, why do he wants us to suffer? We humans are his toys...
    We still don't know exactly why God created us and know we just simply claim He's merely toying around the universe.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen Japhet Larnx View Post
    Why you blamed God for what had happened...

    aren't also humans responsible?....
    coz this people think their intelligence is supreme and they ought to know everything...
    they wont accept the fact that there are some things way beyond our intellectual understanding..

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