Why Is God Always Innocent?

[munzter666]

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@ramini, nice analogy, God stated in his own 10 commandments of THOU SHALT NOT KILL ... but, as a prime example, why did he order Abraham to kill his own son If god exists, he truly is crazy and confused.

or even better, MOSES the first hand receiver of such alleged 10 commandments. what did they do after receiving such commandments...they go out on a rampage open a can of genocide whoop azz on some tribe who did not get the MEMO. i guess its not okay to KILL, just wipe the all out.

[munzter666]

Nothing I will wait then until the end of days would come and GOD would hand in his final judgment upon this world, ending all the sufferings that we endure from the hands of the devil.

a guy, a knife, and a kid...you show up from nowhere. and you....

i guess you are what you do when it counts...

[munzter666]

how do you know that the Panchatantra, or perhaps some greek mystical fantasy book full of metaphors are true? how does the Bible specifically differ? the God in the Old Testament is perhaps the most mean-spirited character in all book mythology. thanks to him, he was smart enough to send the loving, caring, wisdom-filled Jesus Christ in the New Testament on earth totally opposite of him.

holy books owe that much to circular reasoning.

[Ramini]

sent his son to be killed so that sins may be forgiven..if he's the authority on sins..nganong naa pman mamatay?..why is the sin of men only redeemable by the blood of the Son of God? (jesus christ) wla na bai laing paagi?..abi nko he doesn't want killing it says so in his commandments..then why send his son to die for his people?..im sure there were other ways to redeem the sins of his creations without ever having someone to die?..or bacn kai mu ressurect lang iya anak within 3 days?..

UPDATE: naa diay laing paagi..repentance..pero that'll only apply after jesus dies on the cross..does it have to be in that order?

oh yeah..and allowing His son to die at the hands of his people...that's really...ummmmm....something

[fingolfin]

or even better, MOSES the first hand receiver of such alleged 10 commandments. what did they do after receiving such commandments...they go out on a rampage open a can of genocide whoop azz on some tribe who did not get the MEMO. i guess its not okay to KILL, just wipe the all out.

.. yeah, that was the first genocide in " history " , if we'll consider the bible as true.

[rcruman]

where was God in:

- the Haiti Earthquake (100,000 killed)
- the Tsunami (500,000 killed)
- the Holocaust (6,000,000 killed)
- Rwanda (nearly 1,000,000 killed)

why is it that when good things happen, we credit "GOD" for it. but when bad things happen, for some reason, we always seem to blame GOD's creation (human beings) rather than GOD himself. didn't GOD create everything according to his plan? what exactly is the "divine" reason that GOD allow things to happen like this? it's terrible, horrific, and in contradiction to the attributes of this so-called GOD... the loving, caring GOD.

so, when bad things happen, GOD is innocent. remember what Pat Robertson said about the earthquake in Haiti?

when Haiti was a French colony, freedom fighters "swore a pact to the devil," saying, "We will serve you if you will get us free from the French. And so the devil said, ‘Okay, it's a deal.’” Ever since, Robertson continued, "they [Haitians] have been cursed by one thing after the other."

where is GOD in this sentence? please don't give me the FREEWILL crap (excuse my language). if man has freewill, why is it that GOD doesn't seem to have the FREE 'EFFIN WILL to stop these horrific deaths?

GOD shows His anger when earthquake occur.
GOD is teaching to others, everything in GOD's will gives lesson for us to realize.
But instead people who don't believe in GOD will BLAME GOD or rather mock HIM for this disaster.

Some questions will be asked: "HOW ABOUT THE INNOCENT CHILDREN, INFANTS and ETC".

DEATH is an act of saving and have a chance for eternal life.

PEOPLE should know the purpose and power of GOD before complaining.

not unless the one who question GOD doesn't believe in HIM.

The pain that we feel can't be compared to the ETERNAL LIFE.

We must know the WILL of GOD and understand His Purpose.

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8-9



Peace!

[Tirong-say]

in relation to the job story...you say that evil is done by the hands of the devil?..sa job story gani ka gi sanction man sa ginoo nga ang devil mubuhat ug dautan sa kang job..just because kai nag wager silang duha na mapabali sa devil ang allegiance ni job bsta mawala iyang katigayunan ug mga anak...in my opinion i can say that god isn't that innocent with regards to the "evil" spreading in this world?..so what if nag wager napd diay ang ginoo karn ug ang demonyo kng kinsa napad ilang testingan?..so how can you say that the devil IS the only source of evil in this world?..we can't say..bacn naa pai mga modern day jobs dri sa atoa karn..which are pure in heart pure in their allegiance to god pero kadtong mga salbahes dli na i apil sa wager kai naa nman daan sa demonyo..how nice unta if mabali ang wager..mangita silang duha (god and the devil) sa pinaka salbahes na tao sa tibuok kalibutan then shower him all the graces from god..then tan-awon if mubali ba sya into the side of goodness.. "worst things come with the best of intentions"

But actually it was not GOD who impose the sufferings it was the devil himself, GOD had so much faith on Job to overcome the Devil through Job's will. In the end Job did overcome the devil, upholding what should be righteous.

[Tirong-say]

a guy, a knife, and a kid...you show up from nowhere. and you....

i guess you are what you do when it counts...

It's just a test of faith for Abraham. It will not become a test if it is known beforehand, and it should be as convincing as possible like any other test. Human are very much capable to err and to sin, the utmost type of test of faith should be imposed by GOD for a supposed trusted one like Abraham.

[treize]

It was cruelty if God did not send an angel to stop Abraham from killing his son. Nobody died when God tested Abraham's faith... It's because of Abraham's faith that his son lived.. and he was able to proved how solid his faith is..

[fingolfin]

It was cruelty if God did not send an angel to stop Abraham from killing his son. Nobody died when God tested Abraham's faith... It's because of Abraham's faith that his son lived.. and he was able to proved how solid his faith is..

.. in that case, god is just toying with man.

.. KILL HIM .. NO WAIT, YOU PASSED THE TEST ...