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  1. #71

    Default Re: ASA UG UNSA KAHA'Y NAHITABO NI KRISTO HUMAN SA 9YRS OLD TAMAN SA PAGKA 30 NIYA?

    Quote Originally Posted by samokan
    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin
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    lisud na siya tubagon kay wala man siguroy written records nga na discobrean regarding that period......................anyway.....what's important man sad are the teachings of Jesus when he started his public ministry when he was 30.........so ok ra gihapon....

    ... amen.

    question for you guys:

    DOES IT REALLY MATTER ??

    not to spark any argument, just answering the question.

    For ME ... yes it matters a lot. He is our saviour . He was a gift from God the father to us, and embodiment of the holy spirit. And for me, how he prepared his life, what he studied in preparation of becoming one of the greatest teacher ever is a fascinating subject/matter to me. I know there can only be one GOD and we/I could never be Him/Her but just a little information about him on his early years would suffice And maybe just maybe i could find my own enlightenment


    just my 2cent po
    -->savior? what the proof? I'm a roman catholic, not a pro nor an anti.... pero one thing for sure.... the question here is just a mysterys out of the million mysteries asked....

    same sa question nga "asa padung c Judas after cya nag suicide?" kay kung wala ni traydor si Judas, dili unta ma crucify c Jesus?

    If you wanna know the answer.... pakamatay. That is the only we will know.... I was raised as pure catholic but I myself am not convinced that the roman catholic church is the true church because it doesn't have any proof, kay ang gipakita karon nila as proof kay pwede gi fabricate ra sa mga tawo sauna.

    Who knows that our Jesus, is just the same Person they call Allah, and Buddha and the others? Possible diba?

  2. #72

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    pridi,

    What kind of proof are you looking for?

    Who knows that our Jesus, is just the same Person they call Allah, and Buddha and the others? Possible diba?
    I think it is hardly possible...

    Muslims believe Jesus was merely a prophet, not Allah. To say Allah is Jesus would be blasphemous. Christians definitely know Jesus is not the Muslim's Allah because Jesus said He is the Son of God.

    As for Jesus to be Buddha, I'll just point a link on a quick Google search...
    http://www.ankerberg.org/Articles/ap...s/AP1101W3.htm

  3. #73

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    @iron_golem, angels? how do we know that they even exist? I agree with pridi, the only way we can know is kung mamatay, but nobody has come back from the dead to tell the tale about it.

    yup, again I agree with Pridi nga Judas played a very important rule in the crucifixion of Jesus, if not for him it would have not taken place at all.

    as for the savior thingy, in this point its a matter of faith already. Nobody can really give a concrete answer not even the church.

    It is also possible Jesus is Allah, Yahweh, Buddha.. who knows.. basin naa na enlightened diha recently i-apil na lang mi para di mi ma ignorante

    One thing that i find ironic though is that it was rome who persecuted Jesus, and then rome created catholic/chrisitanity .. wala lang just wonderin'

  4. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by samokan
    angels? how do we know that they even exist?
    Well, Sacred Scripture is explicit about them. If they do not, it would be inacurate to say that man is so lucky to have freewill which the angels don't have. The statement alone pre-supposes that angels do exist. (off topic nagyud ni...)

    I agree with pridi, the only way we can know is kung mamatay, but nobody has come back from the dead to tell the tale about it.
    I agree too, half of it.

    as for the savior thingy, in this point its a matter of faith already. Nobody can really give a concrete answer not even the church.
    If there would be a really really concrete answer that trumps all the other answers in every way, we won't be needing faith anymore. Jesus was already very concrete when He said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one goes to the Father except through me." I believe him, period. He performed miracles during His time (I don't know if this would pass a 'concrete-ness' test), some Jews believed Him through this, some did not. He died and resurrects Himself (the ultimate answer)... many believed and many still did not. The Apostles and the Church proclaimed this answer, many believed and many still do not. I would not go so far as to kill myself just to know what really is the answer to salvation.


    One thing that i find ironic though is that it was rome who persecuted Jesus, and then rome created catholic/chrisitanity .. wala lang just wonderin'
    I think it was not Rome who persecuted Jesus, Rome persecuted the followers of Jesus (and thus indirectly persecuted Jesus). That's why these followers were called Christians because they follow Jesus--they posed a threat to the Roman ideology and society, especially those in power, because they are willing to defy local authorities even at the cost of their own lives. If somebody was known to be a Christian at the time of the Roman persecution, it would be a big risk to that person's life. It's ironic indeed if Rome created something just so that it could persecute it. It would be like I write a big program just so that I could delete the code. Pretty inconceivable though.

  5. #75

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    basin nagpahimos si Jesus Christ sa iyang pagkabatan on adtung mga higayuna...

    laag diri..laag didto...hehehe

  6. #76

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    do you believe in angels iron_golem?

  7. #77

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    wa ta kbw uy si jesus nag laroy2x ni adtong panahona.. dgahn ka berks.. hehe.. maybe he lived a normal life like other teenagers would do...

    who knows??

  8. #78

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    ... none of the "twelve" did ask Jesus about this issues. Maybe something like " Lord, what was your teenage life like " or maybe " where have you been all these years??"


    .. i will not even think of a presumption to what Jesue has been doing in those span of years. im a mere human.


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    Quote Originally Posted by iron_golem
    pridi,

    What kind of proof are you looking for?

    Who knows that our Jesus, is just the same Person they call Allah, and Buddha and the others? Possible diba?
    I think it is hardly possible...

    Muslims believe Jesus was merely a prophet, not Allah. To say Allah is Jesus would be blasphemous. Christians definitely know Jesus is not the Muslim's Allah because Jesus said He is the Son of God.

    As for Jesus to be Buddha, I'll just point a link on a quick Google search...
    http://www.ankerberg.org/Articles/ap...s/AP1101W3.htm
    @iron_golem
    The proof that i'm looking for is kung unsa ba jud ang tinuod or wat happened? the question of this thread belongs to that category.... Nga ang pgka misteryo bout sa supreme being, dili na para sa mga mortal nga tawo....

    leave a good life of yourself and to others......

    regarding the Islam thing, if I will ask u, kinsa kaha jud ang tinuod? c jesus? allah? buddha? jehovah? or others? kung unsa imong answer i'll ask you again, can u prove that? on what basis? peace bro....

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    uhmmm... ambot kung puol na ba ni answer... pero probably nag kinabuhig ulitawo hehehe... na in love ba ron, nag minyo kay ingon man sila nga nihit daw kaayo sa iyang times ang mga ulitawong guwang... maayo pud nga basis..

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