Why Is God Always Innocent?

[kebot]

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that's funny. so now i'm the anti-christ? how judgmental coming from a Christian. is that what you've learned from Christianity? by the way, you wanna play semantics? the word anti-christ means "against Christ". now think, how can an atheist be ANTI-CHRIST? to be AGAINST is to oppose CHRIST and his teachings. that's not what atheism is about. again, work on your comprehension.

i'm talking about the Judeo-Christian GOD in the Bible, not the GOD of the universe. afterall, the word "GOD" is just a name.

Kini diay chad! lols pa gemma gemma... hahaha!
Stop addressing against a specific god. Lols, some comprehension problem? dont complain chad, anti could mean against... lols!

[kebot]

there is the Divine Law which comes directly from the scriptures and the answer can be found there as what CLIFF DREW posted. there, it explains why GOD allow evil to exist, therefore, GOD is like this almighty figure who washes his hands when millions are killed, but suddenly becomes the apple on everyone's eyes when good things happen.

GOD is like this almighty figure who washes his hands when millions are killed
--- NO, You don't get it CHAD.. hahah! He judges them... lols! what have you been thinking?

[kebot]

Fact is, he called you "abnormal". Aha man diay ang moderator diri?


Anyway, I'm still wondering why most Christians feel so threatened by atheists' questions.

Lols! playing texttwist? forming letters to combine words.. haha! thats funny. Nope, I am not threatened, I am making fun of his LOGIC. Why on earth did he ask those question he don't even believe. Its funny dba? hahaha!

[kebot]

actually, it was regnauld who he called abnormal. but yeah, this guy KEBOT wala pa gyud mu tagam bisag gi-mute na. i'll give him the courtesy of not reporting to the mods. i'll wait for the mods to take action.

it was regnauld who he called abnormal
--- lols, it was in response to your posts... lols, work on your reading bro.

lols, chad, don't be such a courteous baby! we all know we had been bashing left and right here... let me clarify... i suspected you to be of ABOVE OR BELOW NORMAL CAPACITY because you are way out of the mainstream thinkers... is that abnormal? lols! you deny you are an anti christ, yet you said you are talking to the judeo christian god...

ok ka lang chad?

[AmorsoloX]

GOD is like this almighty figure who washes his hands when millions are killed
--- NO, You don't get it CHAD.. hahah! He judges them... lols! what have you been thinking?

wasnt there a certain evangelist who said that the people of haiti were punished?

should the vatican city suffer the same fate, would you call it as punishment?

.... the natural world does not distinguish the good, the bad, and the ugly

[grovestreet]

there's no point trying to figure out what god is.

coz you just can't.

all these "god analysts" of different religions are only projecting what they think god is through scriptures that are made by man. hehe

[Kenshiro]

wasnt there a certain evangelist who said that the people of haiti were punished?

should the vatican city suffer the same fate, would you call it as punishment?

.... the natural world does not distinguish the good, the bad, and the ugly

Interestingly in ancient times God uses Babylon to punish nations and even Israel but in the end Babylon cant escape punishment. Babylon is one of the nations being punished last by God in the Bible.
Now Babylon is non existent its culture, people and structures are completely obliterated but Babylon existed in ancient times evident that what had happened in Babylon is true in the Bible.

Time has not yet arrived for the Vatican. As what I stated there might still more good people in the vatican compared to Haiti. If a nation looses all its good people these has always the basis for punishment. Although many perspective the people in haiti are good but we really cant judge an innocent looking person can we. I am not happy neither these people having these tragedies but its truly sad.

kung grabe inu pagsalig sa inu pagka christiano o pagkamuslim o pagka judeo.. maski unsa isulti sa mga athiests di tana ma epektohan..

the truth is theres always that little athiests in all of us.. repressed lang jud and ang uban mahadlok mo admit.. hehehehe...

daghan kaau close minded, masuko ichallenge ila core beliefs...

Apektohan?
Our beliefs aren't affected we are just sharing how utterly mindless being an atheist is.
There is still love for the lost in each one of us especially Christians.

[cliff_drew]

First of all, I do not believe we are created perfect. I should have placed quotes on the word "perfect" when I used it. It was only to reference what the bible says. My bad.

Second, that is not what I am asking. We all know that question positions free will as the justification to why people do evil deeds.

My question is why did God create us and imbue us with free will when he already knows evil will be born with it (considering he is infinitely good and is against all that is evil)?


In other words, you believe God allowed evil to exist in this world by giving humans free will, therefore answering the question to this thread.

This lead to two questions. First, did God know from the very start that Satan would rebel and eventually Adam and Eve would sin? Yes, as the Bible leaves us in no doubt as to God's having foreknowledge. He knows "from the beginning the finale," says Isaiah 46:10. The Bible describe God as omniscient, which literally means "all-knowing." Job 37:16, Psalm 139:2-4; Psalm 147:5, Proverbs 5:21, Isaiah 46:9-10, and 1 John 3:19-20.

Second question, then why created them anyway? Come to think what is the purpose of God from the beginning. His purpose is to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness. The universe was created to display God's glory (Psalm 19:1). He wants the earth to be filled with happy, healthy people. And whatever God purposes, He will surely do! He says that he "did not create [the earth] simply for nothing" but "formed it even to be inhabited." (Isaiah 45:18 ) Eventually, God planted a Garden of Eden. He then created the first man and woman, Adam and Eve, He put them in that lovely home and told them: "Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it." (Genesis 1:28; 2:8, 9, 15) So it was God's purpose that humans have children, extend the boundaries of that garden home earth wide, and take care of the animals. The Bible tells us that God created man in his 'image and likeness,' and one of the faculties God himself has is freedom of choice. (Genesis 1:26; Deuteronomy 7:6) When He created humans, He gave them that same wonderful faculty—the gift of free will. The Bible also tells us that God created humans as perfect. They had perfect minds and bodies, so they would not have to get old or get sick or die—they could have lived forever. They would have had perfect children who could also have had a happy, everlasting future. And the expanding population would have had the satisfying work of eventually turning the entire earth into a paradise.—Genesis 1:26-30; 2:15. Thus, God created humans a perfect start.

So the desire for freedom is no accident, for God is a God of freedom. The Bible says: "Where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom." (2 Corinthians 3:17) Hence, God gave us free will as part of our very makeup. Since he knew the way our minds and emotions would work, he knew that we would be happiest with free will. To go with the gift of free will, God gave us the ability to think, weigh matters, make decisions, and know right from wrong. (Hebrews 5:14) Thus, free will was to be based on intelligent choice. We were not made like mindless robots having no will of their own. Nor were we created to act out of instinct as were the animals. Instead, our marvelous brain was designed to work in harmony with our freedom of choice.

Yet, the gift of free will has limits. Unlimited freedom would mean anarchy in society. There have to be laws to guide human activities. God's Word says: "Behave like free men, and never use your freedom as an excuse for wickedness." (1 Peter 2:16, JB) But then again, man chose to become rebellious. Man chose to be disobedient. They have sinned thus they have died. And suffering starts from here until today.

But since God fulfills his purpose, that is, originally to create the earth filled with people, righteous people, thus he will end the suffering in due time. The long years of allowing evil definitely will answer the issue on God's sovereignty, proving that Satan is a liar on his accusation and a miserable failure as a ruler as well as man as they've misused their free will. This mean that He temporarily permits evil to rule the world. But the last days is coming represented by great floods, earthquakes, famine and etc. since Satan's end is also near. Through the war of Armageddon, the earth will be cleansed of all corruption and wickedness and open the way for a righteous new system of things under the rule of God's Messianic Kingdom. And those people who proved loyalty to God, glorifies Him to the very end will be saved and will lived in a new paradise on earth in eternity.—Psalm 37:29

[AmorsoloX]

Apektohan?
Our beliefs aren't affected we are just sharing how utterly mindless being an atheist is.
There is still love for the lost in each one of us especially Christians.

personally, i dont think becoming an athiest is mindless.. in fact, becoming an athiest takes a lot of mental excercises and soul searching.. almost nobody is born an athiest, ever since where children, we are taught some form of religion.. to go against that requires lot of mental activitiy

its just like converting to another religion, you have to delibirate first if you believe on the religion you will embrace...

there are more mindless christians/muslims/jew/hindu/etc than the mindless athiests.. simply because, they were born with their religion, many of them failed to question their beliefs.. almost all athiest questioned their previous beliefs...

saying becoming an athiest is evil is just like saying a christian converting to islam is also evil...

let man question his existence... let man be free to interpret the infinite intelligence... whether he will find a god figure or not.. respect his belief.. you have no right to claim that your belief is better than his for do not forget, you are just human like him...

Time has not yet arrived for the Vatican. As what I stated there might still more good people in the vatican compared to Haiti. If a nation looses all its good people these has always the basis for punishment. Although many perspective the people in haiti are good but we really cant judge an innocent looking person can we. I am not happy neither these people having these tragedies but its truly sad.

who are you to judge your fellow man?....

bagyo/linog/sunog/etc.. walay giila nga maau og daotan.. ngano las vegas naa pa man karon beh.. im sure youd consider such place as evil kay daghan man gamblers/criminals/prostitutes/swindlers.....

the infinite intelligence is impartial... he/she/it does not acknowledge good and evil.. kita ra man tao nag ingon2x kung unsa maau og unsa dili

[prukutung]

it was regnauld who he called abnormal
--- lols, it was in response to your posts... lols, work on your reading bro.

lols, chad, don't be such a courteous baby! we all know we had been bashing left and right here... let me clarify... i suspected you to be of ABOVE OR BELOW NORMAL CAPACITY because you are way out of the mainstream thinkers... is that abnormal? lols! you deny you are an anti christ, yet you said you are talking to the judeo christian god...

ok ka lang chad?

you actually highlighted AB... am not into any of you, but seems like you're lying in this very statement..

Our beliefs aren't affected we are just sharing how utterly mindless being an atheist is.
There is still love for the lost in each one of us especially Christians.

watchout... am not an atheist, but this statement is just so inAppropriate... you're directly implying that atheist are mindless? how can you justify that?? would you consider yourself mindful?? before you impose things, make sure that you're as mindful as the exact opposite of the thing you call mindless...

all these "god analysts" of different religions are only projecting what they think god is through scriptures that are made by man. hehe

makes sense too..