Istoryans your reactions about photography, if you own a DSLR a MUST read

[alucard_x]

What's there to react.

I agree!!!

IMHO - Mathew is just pointing out that rules or guidelines are also important in photography. Pareha ra gud na ug mo-kat-on ka ug mathematics..kinahanlan kamao ka ug counting (1 2 3 4 5..etc) before you go to addition, subtraction, division....integral calculus, differential calculus..etc. Its really up to you how would you learn.

[wikitoy]

i dont believe in rules just guidelines as what dj dark said, pero you need to know the basics first...

there are only 2 ..a good photo and a bad one...hehehe...

mao gyud hehehe...

[Minuano27]

Unlike lawyers who have to know the law (pass bar exam) to become one and practice, a camera owner does not necessarily have to learn the principles of photography to consider himself a photographer.

As a practicing lawyer of 20+ years and an off-and-on photo hobbyist for almost 30 years now, and having taught in 3 law schools in cebu for 10+ years, I can definitely say that there's no basis to equate the study of law to the "study" of photography, as what that FB author said.

Law students need to study the rules and procedures because the law requires these rules and procedures for effective implementation. Otherwise, there would be serious consequences. For example, there's a Rule of Evidence that says a witness can testify only on what he personally knows. So if a witness testifies in court that Pedro told him that Juan killed the victim, that statement is hearsay and should be objected. Now if the lawyer/law student doesn't know the rule on hearsay testimony, and doesn't make an objection, then I pity his client.

Photography, on the other hand is form of expression, which means that its an art form. There may be some "rules", but these do not even come close to being comparable to the rules and procedures of the law. For example, what if a photog didn't follow the "Rule of Thirds" or the "Sunny 16 Rule". What's the consequence? Maybe a "bad" photo to some, but it could be okay or acceptable to others. Whatever the verdict may be, the point is is that, just like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder - which is not the case when it comes to the law.

[dj-dark]

Photography, on the other hand is form of expression, which means that its an art form. There may be some "rules", but these do not even come close to being comparable to the rules and procedures of the law. For example, what if a photog didn't follow the "Rule of Thirds" or the "Sunny 16 Rule". What's the consequence? Maybe a "bad" photo to some, but it could be okay or acceptable to others. Whatever the verdict may be, the point is is that, just like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder - which is not the case when it comes to the law.

+1 to you pops...

[lithardcore]

As a practicing lawyer of 20+ years and an off-and-on photo hobbyist for almost 30 years now, and having taught in 3 law schools in cebu for 10+ years, I can definitely say that there's no basis to equate the study of law to the "study" of photography, as what that FB author said.

Law students need to study the rules and procedures because the law requires these rules and procedures for effective implementation. Otherwise, there would be serious consequences. For example, there's a Rule of Evidence that says a witness can testify only on what he personally knows. So if a witness testifies in court that Pedro told him that Juan killed the victim, that statement is hearsay and should be objected. Now if the lawyer/law student doesn't know the rule on hearsay testimony, and doesn't make an objection, then I pity his client.

Photography, on the other hand is form of expression, which means that its an art form. There may be some "rules", but these do not even come close to being comparable to the rules and procedures of the law. For example, what if a photog didn't follow the "Rule of Thirds" or the "Sunny 16 Rule". What's the consequence? Maybe a "bad" photo to some, but it could be okay or acceptable to others. Whatever the verdict may be, the point is is that, just like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder - which is not the case when it comes to the law.

wow hard edge istoryan we have here..i agree...just like social norms ..rules of photography can be followed otherwise abuse or ignored..as long as you have what it takes to shoot a good picture..

[Minuano27]

wow hard edge istoryan we have here..i agree...just like social norms ..rules of photography can be followed otherwise abuse or ignored..as long as you have what it takes to shoot a good picture..

I found the author's reference to the study of law somewhat disingenuous. While people generally know about "law", they really aren't familiar withthe principles underlying the how or why it operates. And really, professional training is all about rules/procedures; for accountants, engineers, doctors, lawyers, nurses, etc., most things require a certain procedure/way to do them that students must learn for them to be able to practice their profession later on. Obviously, though, doing things "a certain way" is generally not the case with art/artistic forms.

[Primal]

my caucasian cousins in the US don't like to drive Toyotas or Hondas kay sort of "jologs" daw para nila.

philippines, other countries... it's all the same. ang degree lng nuon of materialism varies. but it's still there

yeah..it's there...but not as obvious . lol

I see pinoys (especially the ones "fresh off the boat") here getting luxury cars thinking people would look at them and drool over them...NOT... it's just a car...good for you if you can afford it. If you have a Mark IV camera...who cares? good for you. lol

[mimigs]

these are just guides, just learn the basics and rule of thirds then break the rules once in awhile

[abortretryfail]

@Minuano27

good point. though knowing what to do can make a big difference between a snapshot and a something frame worthy. many newbies start out with guns-a-blazing. but as you go on you start to define your own "rules" of what works and what doesn't... some just take a little bit longer than others

minor correction...

...what if a photog didn't follow the "Rule of Thirds" or the "Sunny 16 Rule". What's the consequence?...

the sunny day f16 rule is not a rule of composition... it's a standard that film and sensor manufacturers follow... but that's for another thread topic

...why do top professionals even bother to purchase the best equipment? Simple answer, equipment matters...

Simple answer... because they can afford to. and because many clients just can't seem to get it out of their heads that better equipment means better photos. I know pro photographers who'd rather stick with gear that works but are forced to buy the "newer and better" just to appease their clients.

equipment DOES matter in the sense of 4 shot buffer, 3 second power up (my first dSLR was the Canon EOS 300D... try using that in a fast paced fashion show), lens quality, etc... but if it works use it! a friend and I just did a shoot this week for an international client and we were using a 18-55 kit lens for goodness sake

the BEST equipment is what you have in your hands right now... so go out there and shoot. once you've reached the limitations of what you have now THEN you'll be in a better position to decide what to buy to push those limits even further.

just my opinion... I could be wrong (CYA disclaimer )

[lithardcore]

@Minuano27

good point. though knowing what to do can make a big difference between a snapshot and a something frame worthy. many newbies start out with guns-a-blazing. but as you go on you start to define your own "rules" of what works and what doesn't... some just take a little bit longer than others

minor correction...



the sunny day f16 rule is not a rule of composition... it's a standard that film and sensor manufacturers follow... but that's for another thread topic




Simple answer... because they can afford to. and because many clients just can't seem to get it out of their heads that better equipment means better photos. I know pro photographers who'd rather stick with gear that works but are forced to buy the "newer and better" just to appease their clients.

equipment DOES matter in the sense of 4 shot buffer, 3 second power up (my first dSLR was the Canon EOS 300D... try using that in a fast paced fashion show), lens quality, etc... but if it works use it! a friend and I just did a shoot this week for an international client and we were using a 18-55 kit lens for goodness sake

the BEST equipment is what you have in your hands right now... so go out there and shoot. once you've reached the limitations of what you have now THEN you'll be in a better position to decide what to buy to push those limits even further.

just my opinion... I could be wrong (CYA disclaimer )

wow ..nice point so the rule SUNNY f16 was only for manufacturing standard.i used to follow this rule pero di man jud mabagay on all ocassions so nag expirement2x pako..im still trying to follow the rules of third ..medjo di pako ka kuha hehehe.