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  1. #141

    most of the people are catholics because g-baptised sila baby pa.. the question is.. why infant baptism is done by the catholics??
    when mani nag-start??
    nka-ask namo sa inyo self ana??
    mao ba na ang teaching sa Bible?? "Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." clear kaau.. baptism cannot save you from sin.. and bata wala panay capacity para mu-believe.. and yet unsa man ang gbuhat sa catholic?? giving people false hope.. kay tungod lang sa tradition...

    for me.. political kaau ni na issue.. kung sa national elections pani.. vote buying nani... i'm sorry sa ma-offend.. pero i don't see any grace in that tradition... you're asking money per ninong?? plus naa pay card para sa mga ninong.. bayad paka sa seminar.. ang walay kwarta?? dili makapabaptized?? or mangutang nlang?? is that the will of God??

    sorry sa harsh na mga words.. wala lang gud ko kasabot ngano na...

  2. #142
    the Church should never have been involved in politics mao gyud unta na ang sakto...

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by babyflik View Post
    the Church should never have been involved in politics mao gyud unta na ang sakto...

    Sakto na sa uban kay nagpakabana kuno katungod daw sa isa ka citizen ....

  4. #144
    Everyone is acting self righteous. Very critical on other people but I wonder how critical are they to themselves. Oh well, proud people always points to other people, never to themselves.

    Most catholics walay moral? I'd agree, kay most people in the world walay moral, maski unsa pa na ila religion.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    nagka-deteriorate na ang priesthood these days. murag dili na ni vocation ila, kundi occupation na.
    I strongly believe in that!


    Quote Originally Posted by coolguy22 View Post
    most of the people are catholics because g-baptised sila baby pa.. the question is.. why infant baptism is done by the catholics??
    when mani nag-start??
    nka-ask namo sa inyo self ana??
    mao ba na ang teaching sa Bible?? "Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." clear kaau.. baptism cannot save you from sin.. and bata wala panay capacity para mu-believe.. and yet unsa man ang gbuhat sa catholic?? giving people false hope.. kay tungod lang sa tradition...

    for me.. political kaau ni na issue.. kung sa national elections pani.. vote buying nani... i'm sorry sa ma-offend.. pero i don't see any grace in that tradition... you're asking money per ninong?? plus naa pay card para sa mga ninong.. bayad paka sa seminar.. ang walay kwarta?? dili makapabaptized?? or mangutang nlang?? is that the will of God??

    sorry sa harsh na mga words.. wala lang gud ko kasabot ngano na...
    Bitaw sah? thanx for the info. I really needed it. it was an eye opener for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Maikeru View Post
    Everyone is acting self righteous. Very critical on other people but I wonder how critical are they to themselves. Oh well, proud people always points to other people, never to themselves.

    Jesus reacted at His time while on earth to some teachings made by priests then. But did he used His authority and power to command there and then, the priests, to do as what Father God commanded? NO. Instead he used His identity as an ordinary man to criticize at what He thought was not the way.

    Just by being observant at what we considered as "Models" and "Teachers" of the Word of God doesn't mean we're self-righteous my dear. I am not a robot, and so are you. If you are tight to your faith as you are tight to God's words then you are always entitled to question. As to how a priest or a politician reacts to what you observe and asked them, is their prerogative. It's better to be misinterpreted by you as what you call us than by just not doing anything at all. https://www.istorya.net/forums/images...s/thumbsup.gif



    Quote Originally Posted by Maikeru View Post
    Most catholics walay moral? I'd agree, kay most people in the world walay moral, maski unsa pa na ila religion.

    i refuse to believe that. the more i don't believe in the notion that people kay "walay utok" or more concretely known as "bogo"

    people have morals, the more that all person have knowledge. what other people lack is FAITH and MOTIVATION. Because of the freedom that we enjoyed so much right now, we tend to go OVERBOARD. Ergo, the situation that is happening all around us.

    But these things shouldn't be the reason for you to lose hope, nor you losing for others. Rather, it should be your motivation to trust Him more. He allows these things to happen now because we don't practice CHRISTIAN OBLIGATION.

    God may not be there as we percieved, but we all know He is. Silently watching us in all we do.
    Last edited by likyam; 01-15-2010 at 03:05 PM. Reason: typical error

  6. #146
    unya kana religion nga naay i endorsar nga kandidato nya awhag sa ila mga followers nga mubutar sa ila gi endorso... unsa sad nah sila? asay mas grabe ana?

  7. #147
    what we all need is a spiritual revival.. not only for catholics but for all faiths.. we need to re examine ourselves and think if we want what is going on around us and to do something to improve it..

  8. #148
    tan-awa usa inyu kaugalingon before mo muhatag sa inyu opinion na dili maayo. think pud a million times before you act!!

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  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by gooddj11 View Post
    tan-awa usa inyu kaugalingon before mo muhatag sa inyu opinion na dili maayo. think pud a million times before you act!!
    thinkk pud a million times before you believe your church/religious/political leaders

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