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  1. #111

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles


    Quote Originally Posted by blackwidow
    I'm a member of the International Order of Job's Daughters. My Dad was (deceased) a Mason, so is my brother now. My Mom is a member of the Order of Eastern Star, my other brother is a Senior Demolay. We believe in Jesus Christ, in the Supreme Being, we have faith in God. Â* My Mom is a protestant, my brothers are Catholics. Should time come that they would be asked to leave the Catholic Church fpr being Masons, so be it. Â*It will not waiver their faith in Jesus Christ. Oh, I went to a exclusive catholic school for girl's all my life.

    Now, tell me, do we sound like we're anti-Christ at all?

    It's sad that some people feel they must sort everybody else around them into their own discrimanatory buckets, know what I mean? (I know Jesus does). Â*
    I dont believe what you are saying. YOu cant believe in Jesus Christ as God thats for sure.

    Well, to convince me, why do you believe in Jesus Christ anyway?

  2. #112

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    @mosimos - bro i can't help but get personal with this post....i kinda feel sorry for you...even when the truth hits you in the face you still deny it because it is against what you believe in.....two people already professed their faith in Jesus Christ inspite of being members of the organization....and you outrightly say they are lying.....kalisod ba sad ana nga mas nakabalo na nuon ka unsa ilang PERSONAL nga pagtuo....

  3. #113

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    Well, its because its contrary to what the members of the organization have told me. I dont know. I guess, the posters should do a lot of convincing. Everybody can say one thing and another thing in this forum.

    I insists because I get first hand information from these people.

  4. #114

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    "I dont believe what you are saying.Â* YOu cant believe in Jesus Christ as God thats for sure.

    Well, to convince me, why do you believe in Jesus Christ anyway?"Â*
    Â*

    Mosimos,
    Let me just put this in plain and in simple words.Â* I told the TRUTH and I don't have to convince you or anybody for that matter, that I believe in Jesus Christ as God. And being a believer, I can't LIE especially about this subject.

    I will not engage further into any more discussion with you Sir, concerning this matter.

    Thank You.

  5. #115

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynhuever
    two people already professed their faith in Jesus Christ inspite of being members of the organization....and you outrightly say they are lying.....
    Well, maybe they ARE without really knowing it. People can often contradict themselves. There are, for example, many chrisitans who profess to believe in God but live as if He didn't exist. In the same way, these people may profess to believe in Jesus, but they contradict His teaching by saying that all other religions are equally pleasing to God (Jesus didn't teach indifferentism). It's illogical, but it happens. That is why we are pointing it out.

  6. #116

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    @blackwidow: Hi sis...

    @mosimos and mannyamador: wait lang ha, kanang unsa man jud diay mahitabo kung member mi ani nga organization?...ma apektahan ba mong duha?...ma wala inyo kwarta? ma wala inyo life? mag end of the world ba?... why convince us na mo angkon jud nga anti-christ?...sunod ayaw nlang mo pag ask ug question kay dili man gihapon mo mo-tuo...or ayaw nlang kaha ug post kay nangita ra man ug lalis dri ba...

    ...and even mo ingon mo nga naay dili maayo nga teaching ang organization, ambot kung unsa kaha...dili mana mga 6 or 7 years old ang member sa organization... kabalo sad tawn na kung unsay sakto or dili...

    indifferentism?: unsa man mi MUTANT?...

    @moderators: sori pero gi personal naman mi...better close this thread nlang...and sori mka ingon jud ko nila ug "STFU"

  7. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer_sensation
    why convince us na mo angkon jud nga anti-christ?...
    Please read the posts. I didn't say freemasons were "anti-christ" (whatever that means). I said that one of the fundamental principles of freemasonry -- indifferentism -- was contrary to Christianity. Please do not put words into my mouth.

  8. #118

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    so stop convincing us...so unsa man lagi mahitabo if naa ang indifferentism?...ma apektahan ba ka?...tubag...

  9. #119

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    Quote Originally Posted by archer_sensation
    so stop convincing us...so unsa man lagi mahitabo if naa ang indifferentism?...ma apektahan ba ka?...tubag...
    If you are asking if I am affected, the answer is YES. All deceptions of this kind are by their very nature wrong and they mislead many Catholics and other christians. I am concerned for them.

    By the way, YOU aren't the only one reading this thread. So even if you remain obstinate and refuse to accept the truth, others may read this thread. I want to wanr them too about how freemasonry contradicst Christianity.

  10. #120

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    Quote Originally Posted by blackwidow
    "I dont believe what you are saying.Â* YOu cant believe in Jesus Christ as God thats for sure.

    Well, to convince me, why do you believe in Jesus Christ anyway?"Â*
    Â*

    Mosimos,
    Let me just put this in plain and in simple words.Â* I told the TRUTH and I don't have to convince you or anybody for that matter, that I believe in Jesus Christ as God. And being a believer, I can't LIE especially about this subject.

    I will not engage further into any more discussion with you Sir, concerning this matter.

    Thank You.
    Why? Is it too much for you if I ask why you believe Jesus Christ is God? There are a lot of posters here who are interested to join in your organization. Your organization thrives on logic and knowledge, I guess there might be an explanation why you consider Jesus Christ as God. Its not enough to say motoo ko. Im testing whether you are telling the TRUTH or not. You fail to explain it.

    archer sensation:

    Wa mi mangita ug lalis. We are only asking black window some clarifications but unfortunately she refused to further answer our questions. If they are very sure about believing JC as God, there should be no problem explaining it.

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