Is the Illuminati or the Secret Societies Dead?

[Tirong-say]

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Still they are very secretive and cryptic, makes their true purpose vague for everyone to discern......

[devils_advocate]

dapat aning mga mason mo lad-lad na kay secreto ra kaau.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

There is nothing special in Modern Freemasonry. It evolved into a business clubs of drinking men fanning their ego, resting on the grandeur of their ancient predecessor thinking that they(modern Masons) are responsible for their(ancient predecessors) great achievements.

when I see young Masons I usually have bad activities going inside my stomach. These airheads are filled with theories and zero community service, well maybe they have done it once or twice but nothing that can really wow me and deserves any man's respect. The Catholic and other Religious community can do it much better. Hey I'm talking about the young and Modern Masons not the Old and Wise ones.

thank you for your opinion.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

Thanks Hellblazer,,, as a freemason sir what do you think is the source of all those conspiracies? is there any truth to it?

there are no conspiracies in Masonry.

[Gotterdammerung.2]

Still they are very secretive and cryptic, makes their true purpose vague for everyone to discern......

don't give much thought about it, cos the more you praise and be in awe on their being so called "cryptic" you are all the more aggrandizing their euphoria (an exaggerated state of happiness, with no foundation in truth or reality).

it so happened that great people who are dead by now were members of the organization. nya proud ra ba kaayo sila ani nga member ni nila si Rizal and all other great people as if sila great pod, hahahahaha. mga Airheads jud ning mga bagong mason ron.

[Gotterdammerung.2]

thank you for your opinion.

you are so welcome

[devils_advocate]

don't give much thought about it, cos the more you praise and be in awe on their being so called "cryptic" you are all the more aggrandizing their euphoria (an exaggerated state of happiness, with no foundation in truth or reality).

it so happened that great people who are dead by now were members of the organization. nya proud ra ba kaayo sila ani nga member ni nila si Rizal and all other great people as if sila great pod, hahahahaha. mga Airheads jud ning mga bagong mason ron.

In other words delusions of grandeur, right?

[The_Child]

no problemo, professor child. your professor, good sir, is NOT rizal so he will never know the exact thoughts rizal was thinking when rizal wrote the 2 novels. so, your professor may keep his opinion about the institutionalization of crab-mentality that's being attributed to rizal's 2 novels.

it's like your professor was suggesting that it was because of rizal, filipinos are so now into crab-mentality. and that other professor of yours who wrote about the great benefits of colonialism? what's so great about being a lapdog for a dictator? well, that's their opinion and you may share it with them.

you can't stop me from commenting too, that the church made us this way. from the time of the spanish friars, it's because of the church that the filipinos never really realized their full potential but instead being looked down to as only an indio.

but thanks to filipino Masons (and some spanish Masons), we gained our independence from spain.

sad thing, the crab-mentality indoctrination by the church remained. their dogma of "i'm right you're wrong, i'm holy you're not, i'm smart you're dumb, i'm big you're small" was pretty much programmed into the minds of the filipino people through fear-based emotional blackmail using the name of God as leverage. the church literally held people's salvation hostage IF they do not submit to their teachings.

but not rizal. and all those filipino Masons who sacrificed their lives so we may know what freedom is like.

and if you say that crab-mentality is here to stay, well, that's your choice. that's still your freedom to choose. but we also have the freedom NOT to choose anything the church is offering.

professor child, i know you may reply thrice the length of this post because you love flowery words. i must admit it could put us all, who are not very bright, into unease. but they don't impress at all. not at all.

professor child, you may want to read the book The Brethren by Reynold Fajardo.

i think we've derailed much already, so i think it would be prudent to go back to the topic. thanks for opting not to reply anymore as it will be off-topic entirely.

God bless.

there you go, so at the end. you just agreed with me. that we could not for certainty really know. there are debates, you have your side, and there is the other sides. No point in insisting, without clear proof, that one side is right while the other is wrong. thats my whole point all along - and so see, you jsut agreed in the end. so i do not see why you have to be so insistent in the beginning.

and i dont have to impress people, i dont work to impress, neither do i post to impress. to impress someone means that the person impressing is in awe of this person being impressed, nag pa pasin. But sadly, i dont attempt to impress anyone here. why would i do such a horrible thing?


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