Satanism and Heavy Metal Music

[fingolfin]

.. enough talking about the TS, he is obviously ignorant. He doesnt know what he is saying.. wwwoooopppsssiieeee.. IT'S NOT EVEN HIS OWN OPINION. IT'S FROM WIKI ....


.. anyway, cannibal corpse was also the bomb, nyehehehe.... hahayz, i could still remember those 1993 - 1996 when death metal bands were popping out like mushrooms. Those were the haydays of metal. Sepultura, Death, Obituary, Unleashed, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Grave, Hypocrisy, Blaspheriun, Kreator .... dddddaaaaaaaaahhhh, the list goes on and on.

[dmelsie]

Psychological Tendencies + peer pressure + (sympathy) + listening = very high possibility

this is for the likes of you thats why i advise u should avoid heavy metal music

me = sometimes nay psychological tendencies (because sa mga problema sa kinabuhi) +peer pressure (daghan ko barkada adik adik) + support ko nila tungod sa ila problema + listen ko heavy metal music = sukad sukad wa ko kasuway ana mga bawal na gamot, sukad sukad wa ko kapatay, wa ko nanaot sa simbahan or unsa pa ng sunog sunog diha

korek. depende ra jud sa tawo bro. FAITH IN OURSELVES AND OUR KREATOR

hell yeah KREATOR coma of souls? enemy of god?hordes of chaos? hehehehe ? or basig CREATOR bai hahaha

gregorian chants are more creepy than heavy metal songs..

yeah mura if imo huna hunaon seremonyas sa kulto noon purong purong tapos candle lights hehehe

"Heavy Metal is often connected to satanism."

there is a very big difference between often connected to satanism compared to heavy metal is satanism

if u say often u are not sure if heavy metal indeed is directly connected to satanism kana mga banda nga horor2 atik atik ra na ila dili gyud na pure satanist form of art ra gud na ilaha pareha ana nude paintings if huna huna kag bastos na bastos gyud na pero if dili ka malisyoso og huna huna maka apreciate ka unsa kanindot og maayo pagkahimo ang maong painting, just like sa heavy metal, if u think its evil, satanist period so it shall be, but if u dig deeper and tend to appreciate sa ka complicated ani nga style then d ka maka think og demonyo2 man diay ni, sa laktod pagkasulti "ANG HEAVY METAL DILI PWEDE SA SIRADO OG VERY CONCLUSIVE NGA PANGHUNA-HUNA"

--- who gave you the right not to associate heavy metal with satanism? I tell you satanist plays music too... not unless u ban them from doing so... sorry fin... still cannot relate? dba music knows no boundaries? even tamil songs are nice to hear sometimes... how's that?

so u mean only heavy metal can be associated to satanism?
rnb, emo emo diba mo depict man sad na sila og mga binuhatan nga iya ni satanas?
rnb/hip hop = promotes gangs,toyi-toyi,money, happy go lucky, partying,drinking,
emo-emo = promotes self pity, hatred towards society, pakamatay pakamatay
heavy metal = promotes satan? as you say, simple lang kaayo oh promotes satan dayon wa na daghan atik atik diba as per what you said na ha nga heavy metal = satanism

so metalheads = supporters of satan? how come? have u been to any metal concert in cebu? have u attended hellfest? even once nakita ba kag unsay naa diha? of course normal nay banda banda tukar niya minaw me inom inom redhorse, headbang headbang mao ra na imo makita bai, maski gamay gubot or sumbagay wa gyud ko kahinumdom sukad sukad since hellfest 1 to 5 wa gyud ko kasaksi ana, after sa hellfest nangadto ba me og simbahan? nakadungog ba kag balita nga gipanamastamasan ang balay sa balaang bata? Señor Santo Niño? og mga metalheads? sukad sukad bai? mosinggit pa man gane me og VIVA PIT SINYOR kada sinulog

now kana kasagaran naa mag tambay og magusuroyan sa mango mga METALHEADS ba na? kato namusil sa ayala sauna? kato nangubot sa mango sauna? about HEAVY METAL MUSIC BA TO?

para fair e mention sad nato SI ECLEO JR. Certified metal head to nagtukod og iya grupo, gipa masakir iya kaugalingon asawa, og wa ko sure naa pay lain wa mahibaw e
now ang pangutana dako ba og connected ba ang iya pag ka METALHEAD sa iyang gihimo? na proven ba nga tungod sa iyaha pagka mahilig sa HEAVY METAL music mao naka himo siya ana? Gi Mention ba sa KORTE about sa iya pagka METALHEAD? and about sa crimes iya nahimo?

now lets compare we fast forward nanakay tag 21b pag abot sa may mango pagliko sa may IGLESIA NI CRISTO didto nagpatak nag mga bar nay mga babae nga nag promote sa ilang mga lawas para pyestahan sa mga hangol og unod nga mga lalaki (now kabantay ka unsay kasagaran porma ani mga lakiha? bai desinti, de kotse, uban pa gane mga inilang tao sa sociodad sukad sukad mura wa ko kabantayg yawan og porma, bisag mo action kog sulod diha gane di ko tagdon kay simple ra kog pa morma black t shirt with metal band prints and black pants black shoes)
pag abot sa unahan didto mga teenager nag pares pares, sayaw sayaw kumot kumot dughan, naa pod mga boring boring nag sigi panguhit mga koreano og ubang foreigner para makasapi, og uban pa, naa mga babae ang gisuot daw tayhupan lang makita na ang favorite sa kalalakihan. nay mga puro lalaki nag gakos gakos og kiss kiss sa lain laki ( bayot ang isa) og daghan pa imo makita bai nga if ako mo describe iya sa yawa og pagtulon an ni satanas, (wa man gitudlo sa simbahan nga sakto og maka diyos ning mga buhata) laktod nga pagkasulti imagina ang sodoma og gomora bai

pangutana:
kamo diri tanan sa forums unsay pirmi ipatukar nga music diha sa mango?

Just like Avril, a poser to be a punk kid.
--- so because avril is a poser she is fake? tell it to her fans you will have your shot then. Maybe she is fake as punk, but her music is her music, can you RESPECT on that Mr. RIGHT? amf!

so our heavy metal music is our music sir so CAN YOU HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT TO US? JUST A LITTLE THOUGH amoa gi ask, pwede ra sad imo me ingnun ginoo ginoo ng amoang heavy metal / black metal band kay for sure we will shot you right?



EXAMPLE:
me i have a band
me and my band composed our very first composition
me and my band decided that our music will be composed of heavy guitar riffs, hardcore vocals and always screaming, fast paced drums, to be exact a heavy metal type
me and my band members are long hair wears black shirts and pants, scary looking (kay mga batig nawng not like sa uban mga wafu)
but alas our song Lyrics was the "RECIPE ON HOW TO COOK SPECIAL CALDERETA"

but somehow some one on some forums depicted and created a picture or his proposed understanding of our song with having a grotesque man butchering a goat, nagpabukal og ininit with dugo dugo, niya blurry blurry ang images while nagunit sa sundang and he depicted other blood and gore images which he relates to our song "CALDERETA"

but if you read our song lyrics its plain and simple recipe on how to cook special caldereta which i dedicate for my grandma because i love so much the way she cooks her special caldereta and how i find it lamian kaayo if nagkaon nako

there you go

"OH MY GOD WE ARE SATANIC BAND"

[fingolfin]

@dmelsie ... i loved reading your post, especially your analogy here

EXAMPLE:
me i have a band
me and my band composed our very first composition
me and my band decided that our music will be composed of heavy guitar riffs, hardcore vocals and always screaming, fast paced drums, to be exact a heavy metal type
me and my band members are long hair wears black shirts and pants, scary looking (kay mga batig nawng not like sa uban mga wafu)
but alas our song Lyrics was the "RECIPE ON HOW TO COOK SPECIAL CALDERETA"

.. but, there's no point in explaining that to the thread starter, like i pointed out he is ignorant to what he is saying, just read at his post and opinions, do they have a basis in music It's evident that he has no experience in making music, like he just admitted that he only listens to music. He can't even defend properly his stand on this matter, he dismisses us by saying GO COMPLAIN TO WIKIPEDIA. Again, i pity the threadstarter.

.. and again, this is MUSIC AND RADIO Board. MUSIC IS TANGIBLE. . MUSIC IS ART. MUSIC IS SCIENCE. THEREFORE MUSIC IS A FACT. ... This is not the Spirituality board where they discuss the intangible and the "unproven".

[dmelsie]

@dmelsie ... i loved reading your post, especially your analogy here




.. but, there's no point in explaining that to the thread starter, like i pointed out he is ignorant to what he is saying, just read at his post and opinions, do they have a basis in music It's evident that he has no experience in making music, like he just admitted that he only listens to music. He can't even defend properly his stand on this matter, he dismisses us by saying GO COMPLAIN TO WIKIPEDIA. Again, i pity the threadstarter.

.. and again, this is MUSIC AND RADIO Board. MUSIC IS TANGIBLE. . MUSIC IS ART. MUSIC IS SCIENCE. THEREFORE MUSIC IS A FACT. ... This is not the Spirituality board where they discuss the intangible and the "unproven".

thanks for the compliment sir, yeah i agree based on previous post sa TS murag maka conclude ko same same ra og yanong panglantaw og opinion sa heavy metal music sa akoa lola og akoa mama but i tend to explain to them nga dili e label such as ang heavy metal music,

" DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER, CAREFULLY CHECK ITS TABLE OF CONTENTS FIRST"

mao ra na akoa e isulti ni mama og lola, as time goes nakasabot ra sila

oh one thing diay, akoa lola ganahan kaayo og gregorian chants kay bugnaw og tingog niya relaxing daw au
akoa gipakit sa ila pictures og videos, which naka purong purong marching along the alley, with candle lights niya mura tan awon og pagan practice or to be exact kulto ba, akoa ingnan ako lola
la nahan ka minaw ana nga tan awa oh mga anti christ mana sila tan awa ng ila gisuot oh mura mana sila mag offer og halad ni satanas, mura ila gikantahan before sila mo halad ni ingon akong lola hala tood diay dong nuh, pag nga na oi, yawa yawa man diay na interpretation na nako nga akoa gi present ni lola


but in another view, kana mag hood hood, mag candle lights, niya nay skull skull, it doesnt mean nga kulto or satanist na, its another way or representation of celebrating life, a ritual in which a person is reincarnated or renewed with a new life.

if naa ko sa amoa mag bikil me akoa brother in law kay mahilig pa tukar ana mga hip hop rnb songs niya mga explicit kaayo nga klaro pa gyud kaayo pagka litok sa lyrics bitaw naa baya mga bata nako ig agaw gagmay pa mga elementary pirti na mo sulti

"oh yeah pak dat syet, mada pak niggah, og uban pa ng mga pamulong sa ana nga mga kanta"

where as: ang kuya nagpa sounds heavy metal bagrak kaayo

akoa mga ig agaw tawn "kuya unsa mana imo gipatukar d man maklaro lyrics d me kasabot"

one time pasalida ko kato compilation sa mga music video og death and black metal, kita akoang 8 years old na ig agaw na laki mao ni iya sulti

" unsa mana kuya oi hadlok hadlok mana, ilisi kato nay daghan mga chix ba kay nindot pa to"

see ang tan awa brader ang realidad sa sociodad karon, unsa mas nakahatag og dakong dautang impluwensya sa kabatan onan, HEAVY METAL MUSIC BA?

CRIPS og BLOODS metalheads bana?

kana soundtrack sa GTAIV nga gi ingon violent games, gangster games HEAVY METAL MUSIC BA NA?
soundtrack sa RAPEPLAY nga duwa in which is rape simulation game HEAVY METAL BA NA?
to be fair murag sa mga FPS games nga akoa naduwa DOOM 3 ra man tingali akoa nahinumduman nga nay hardcore sounds, if kinsay maka name pa lain example palihog add

see mga bata d dayon kasabot, ang heavy metal music is not for every one, not commomly played on fm stations, always criticized as work of the demon, and what usually you hear on fm stations these days? rnb/hip hop, emo type music?

[dmelsie]

a true metalhead knows what is evil or not
a true metalhead is open minded
a true metalhead knows what is real and not
a true metalhead knows what is positive and what is negative
a true metalhead knows what his music means
a true metalhead dont just listen, he understands
a true metalhead dont just follow instantly what he listens to
a true metalhead is very considerate in considering the most considerable consideration to consider


i even listen to heavymetal and other sub genres of metal without knowing the artist, names of bandmembers, origin of bandmembers, religious affiliations of band members, profile of the band
i listen to there music mainly because i like the way they play, unsa ka lawm og katibook ang ila vocals, unsa ka complicated ang ila tukar, pila ka beats ang ila drums, unsa ka skillfull ila mga band members, unsa ka pas pas ang ila drums, technical ba, more on blast beats, etc, unsa ka pas pas ang ila guitar riffs, unsa ka bug at ila bass, unsa gipasabot sa ila lyrics( og dili maayo dili nako sundon) og daghan pa kaayong rason ngano nga ganahan maminaw og heavy metal music ng uban diri

kani if hataganay og interpretasyon sa music nga commonly madunggan nako sa radyo

Example: Britney Spears

if gam an nato og interpretasyon base sa pagsabot nako sa iyang kanta og ways sa iya pagkanta
dili gyud maayong ehemplo sa mga kabataan, daghan sa iya kanta nga nay misleading lyrics pun an pag grabeh ka sexy nga panamit

kana mga boybands unsa kasagaran comment "gwapoha nila oi, ka cute ni nick (BSB) ka charming ni justin ( nsync) and many others

what u think kaha giapas sa mga listener ani ang music nila or ang ila ka gwapo?

if ari pod ta sa salida example twilight diha ko sm kasagaran comment madunggan nako kanindot sa abs ni jacob, gwapo kaayo sila and other bla bla bla

what u think kaha giganahan sa mga nanan aw ang sense sa movie or ang mga ka machohan sa actor didto? wa man noon pod ko ka admire ani nga movie (no offense its my own opinion lang ha)

ma compare ra na sa metal or heavymetal bai, pipila lang ang mo dig deeper ani nga genre kay dili tanan taw ganahan kaayo ani nil

if i have a metalband compose meg kanta niya ang amoa kanta is about, corruption, preserving mother nature, dedicate namo how we the band members love our parents, how beautiful is life,
then pagkadungog nimo kay wala ka kasabot tungod sa ka complicated sa amoa music e label dayon as such SATANISM or SATANIC band na me dayon akoa pangutana maayo ba na?



i know nga naa gyud mga heavy metal songs which promote or adore satan or hatred, death, blood and gore or unsa pa na, pero wa man ko ga huna huna sa unsay message sa ani nga klase sa kanta nila ang akoa gi apas is giunsa pagtukar, unsa nga music skills gigamit and how complicated ilahang music ingani usually gihuna huna nako and i know ingane sad gipang huna huna sa mga metalhead diri

take also this kana mga kanunay madungog nga kanta nato sa radyo kana tig kanta og mga kundiman, mga slow songs, mga mingaw nga kanta maka kanta pa ba sila og hardcore songs? can they sing like george "corspegrinder" fisher, chris barnes?, tom araya?,karl sanders? chris lollis? and many other heavymetal vocalist?

but some heavymetal artist or metal artist mo kanta man gane og slow ang taga slayer nga si kerry king mo tira og country, si dimebag darrell tukar gane tog blues, ang soulfly mo collaborate man gane sa mga rap metal (although daghan di ganahan kay murag nitibag hehehe) and many others pa na tig himo og ingane although labeled as metal or heavymetal band sila pero mo tukar gihapon sila og lain if gusto nila

[dmelsie]

as far as lyrics is concerned try to check sa mga lyrics sa lamb of god although dili labeled sa heavy metal or death metal or black metal ni sila pero ganahan kaayo ko the way mo arrange og lyrics ni sila, nga nindot pagkagamit sa mga words, isa lang na sa example sa mga metal band nga maayo mo arrange og lyrics

if bahin sad og christianity murag antestor pod akoa mahuna hunaan kay usually murag kane sila nag una una ani unblack metal, naa pa to 2 ka other band kalimot ko sa name, naa pa daghan mga unblack metal

kinsa na makapuno og lain example, back up pod mo para maka huna huna ning TS nga ang heavy metal or metal is not just about SATANISM tabangon sad nato ni siya sa iya pagka IGNORANTE

[Kind Van de Duivel]

as far as lyrics is concerned try to check sa mga lyrics sa lamb of god although dili labeled sa heavy metal or death metal or black metal ni sila pero ganahan kaayo ko the way mo arrange og lyrics ni sila, nga nindot pagkagamit sa mga words, isa lang na sa example sa mga metal band nga maayo mo arrange og lyrics

I concur. As a matter of fact, I was reading about the band yesterday, and yes, their lyrics are quite profound. I e'en got their songs 'Bloodletting' (when they were still called 'Burn The Priest') and 'Walk With Me In Hell' (which, by the way, to people who doesn't have any idea, it ain't a "Satanic" song)

if bahin sad og christianity murag antestor pod akoa mahuna hunaan kay usually murag kane sila nag una una ani unblack metal, naa pa to 2 ka other band kalimot ko sa name, naa pa daghan mga unblack metal

kinsa na makapuno og lain example, back up pod mo para maka huna huna ning TS nga ang heavy metal or metal is not just about SATANISM tabangon sad nato ni siya sa iya pagka IGNORANTE

Hehe. I thought the term "Christian Black Metal\Unblack Metal" didn't exist. But here are the proofs:

Admonish\Crimson Moonligh\Santifica - Sweden
Antestor\Drottnar\Extol\Lengsel\Vaakevandring - Norway
Frost Like Ashes - USA
Holy Blood - Ukraine
Horde - Australia
Kekal - Indonesia
Slechtvalk - The Netherlands

BUT I don't think these bands love the term "Christian Black Metal\Unblack Metal".

[Kind Van de Duivel]

naa pay mas worse ana...ang story was nag retreat (religious kind) ang group of students sa osa ka university...then one of them nag sol-ob og shirt with a dragon print, ang gibohat kay gipahobo sa osa ka religious figure ang tshirt nya gisunog, kalooy sa tag-ya sa tshirt tag pila kaha to? wa ra ba ilisi. gisunog kay satanism kono to.

Luoya gud. Dragon ra gani 'to, "Satanic" na para niya. Samot na tingali'g sul-oban 'to nako'g "Get Thee Behind Me Satan" sa Cradle Of Filth (a nun getting raped doggy-style by "Satan"). Ako na tingali mismo'y sunogon.

[Kind Van de Duivel]

pangutana:
kamo diri tanan sa forums unsay pirmi ipatukar nga music diha sa mango?

RNB UG HIPHOP!!!!!! Pweh! Kanang mga babaye nga mag-anhaan diha, manghod lang gamay sa takirub. Mga gara kaayo, sigarilyo sigarilyo dayon, wa' ra ba'y angay. Ang mga laki, mao pud. Tanduay Ice ra baya'y kaya imnon. Kun ato'ng aninawon pag-ayo, maka-ingon g'yud kita nga wa' gy'u'y class ang mga tawo diha.

[kit_cebu]

Heavy metal music has often been connected with Satanism,

what's with this guy? raped on your childhood?