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  1. #71

    Quote Originally Posted by moklo View Post
    Watchout for the word physically bro. hehehe!

    What I want you to know is dili jud liquid ang mo sulod sa cylinder it is a form of gas na, mixture na na.
    Ug usa pa gi compare ra nko ang carborator ug separator, bisan layu ra kaayo cla ug gamit pero pariha ra ila outcome is to make a liquid fuel into gas form so that it can be easily burn.

    Isulod kuno nang gasolina pure sa cylinder ug mo andar ba!
    still the fuel inside the cylinder is called gasoline....wala niya gi breakdown ang gasoline. Iya lang gi pino to its tiniest drop tungod kay only a tiniest drop is needed to create an explosion para motuyok imo crank shaft.

    so, if you put water into its tiniest drop...dili man na siya maka create ug explosion.
    so water basically cannot create an explosion or dili flammable.
    so, dili gyud na puede ingnon nga water powered engine....dapat ang tawag ana Hydrogen powered engine.

    What you are feeding into the intake port of your engine is not water. You are feeding the hydrogen extracted from water.

    Sa gasolina, you are actually feeding gasoline into the intake port of your engine...dili lang in big volumes but in its tiniest drop. Pagka kalas kaha ug gasolina sa imo engine no if you require large drops of gasoline into your cylinder.

    pangilad ra na water power kuno...para dakop sa interest sa mga tawo.

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    No matter how much you wring your words (sa Binisaya pa, bisag unsahon nimo pagbali-balihon), you definitely cannot state that these vehicles are "water powered"...

    Hydrogen vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Most of you are talking about hydrogen powered vehicles and NOT water powered vehicles. The only true water-powered vehicle is one that runs on steam power.

    -RODION

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    still the fuel inside the cylinder is called gasoline....wala niya gi breakdown ang gasoline. Iya lang gi pino to its tiniest drop tungod kay only a tiniest drop is needed to create an explosion para motuyok imo crank shaft.

    so, if you put water into its tiniest drop...dili man na siya maka create ug explosion.
    so water basically cannot create an explosion or dili flammable.
    so, dili gyud na puede ingnon nga water powered engine....dapat ang tawag ana Hydrogen powered engine.

    What you are feeding into the intake port of your engine is not water. You are feeding the hydrogen extracted from water.

    Sa gasolina, you are actually feeding gasoline into the intake port of your engine...dili lang in big volumes but in its tiniest drop. Pagka kalas kaha ug gasolina sa imo engine no if you require large drops of gasoline into your cylinder.

    pangilad ra na water power kuno...para dakop sa interest sa mga tawo.

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    Ok, I understand your point. The question is unsa man ang gikuhaan ug hydrogen diba ang tubig ug usa pa unsa man ang gitubil sa iyang sakyanan dba ang tubig!

    Makaingon jud ang mga tao nga tubig jud ang iyang fuel kay ang iyang imbento nga separator gi part man nya sa iyang makina. Dili man jud hydrogen iya gitubil like auto LPG.Ang process jud sa pag produce ug hydrogen is within ra jud sa iyang sakyanan, d na cya manginahanglan ug hydrogen ang gusto lang nya tubig.

    Maayo unta ug ang itubil ni dingil kay dritso hydrogen kay makaingon ta nga hydrogen fueled car. Unya kay ang iya itubil kay tubig man jud.

    Alang man ug mag drive ka sa ka dingil nga sakyanan unya nahutdan ug tubig magita ka ug hydrogen! hehehe!

    Maybe you think gasoline is an element like Hydrogen or oxygen it is a mixture of compounds called hydrocarbons (compounds of hydrogen and carbon) http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_gasolin...und_or_mixture. Pariha rana sa tubig nga naay hydrogen daghan lang na cya ug uban pa nga elements nga more flamable ug gamay ra ang dili magamit nga elements compared sa water.

    Ug ato jud sabton dili ang word nga gasoline ang masunog kundi ang mga elements nga naa niya like sa water nga naay hydrogen ug oxygen.
    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by moklo View Post
    Unya kay ang iya itubil kay tubig man jud.
    Ang steam engine tubig ra man pod ang itubil, so there's no "WOW" factor about a vehicle nga gatubil ug tubig.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtFnnmJtSs

    -RODION

  5. #75
    In short, kinahanglan 'ta ug on-board water processor aron makagamit 'ta sa hydrogen nga naa sa water.

    Since combustion engine ra man gihapon ang atong naabtan (unless mag design ug lahi nga makita), kinahanglan 'ta ug something mo buto. Pero di pwede ang water lang with the current engine setup sa combustion engine kay sunog na daan ang water (sunog nga hydrogen = water).

    Sa pagkakaron, kung gusto ka mogamit ug tubig sa makina, very doable ra gyud sya ug dako gihapon ug maayong effect sa tubig (vapor form) as supplemental fuel sa gasoline or diesel engines. Inig mag kita ang tubig ug ang init nga carbon sa sulod sa combustion chamber, mo react ang carbon with water taking with it the oxygen while leaving the hydrogen. Ang resulta naa na unya kay carbon monoxide (combustible - pwede mo buto) plus naay hydrogen (combustible - pwede mo buto). In effect, more power, less carbon deposits and cleaner engines. Try it yourself on your combustion engines.

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Ang steam engine tubig ra man pod ang itubil, so there's no "WOW" factor about a vehicle nga gatubil ug tubig.

    YouTube - The Stanley Steam Car

    -RODION
    First you should think ngano ni balhin ta sa gasoline, ang steam engine mag depende na sa gidakon sa imong reservoir aron makakuha ka ug kusog nga pwede makadaug ug mga bug-at nga butang.

    Ang steam engine nagkinahanglan na ug init aron sa pag pa bukal sa tubig like sa inyuha kanang initan ni mama nmo ug init tubig kanang takuri. pag mobukal na gani makita nmo nga naay puti nga aso gikan sa tubig mao nay steam. mao na ang mo duot sa piston aron maka create ug motion.

    Ang pangutana unsa man imo gamiton sa pag pabukal sa tubig bro?

    One thing sad dili ang water ang nag power sa steam engine kundi ang gigamit nmo nga sugnod aron sa pag pa bukal sa tubig.

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by emailroy2002 View Post
    kung e break down daan ang hydrogen sa mga hydrogen machinery then pure hydrogen nalang e butang dyud sa automobile, aron wa nay convertion diri sa sod sa making diba ok?

    pwede guro nah oi... hydrogen fuel dyud....
    hahahahahha murag mas mu xpnsive bro hahahahha gamay na lng kulng lpg na lng ka hehehe

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    ok kaau na

  9. #79
    harvesting hydrogen is very cheap compared to harvesting lpg..
    mabreakdown gud na nimu ang water into hydrogen and oxygen diba thru simple electrolysis..
    the big problem is storing hydrogen, kay potentially dangerous gud na..

    @vernie, ask lang ko unsaon pagreact sa init na carbon ug water displacing hydrogen gas and carbon monoxide?similar rana sa uling nga nagbaga nya sabligan ug tubig, naa na daun ka hydrogen gas ug CO..

    so if we want a water powered vehicle, simple lang..
    break down water into its components and inject this components into a
    modified combustion chamber.diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhesive View Post
    harvesting hydrogen is very cheap compared to harvesting lpg..
    mabreakdown gud na nimu ang water into hydrogen and oxygen diba thru simple electrolysis..
    the big problem is storing hydrogen, kay potentially dangerous gud na..

    @vernie, ask lang ko unsaon pagreact sa init na carbon ug water displacing hydrogen gas and carbon monoxide?similar rana sa uling nga nagbaga nya sabligan ug tubig, naa na daun ka hydrogen gas ug CO..

    so if we want a water powered vehicle, simple lang..
    break down water into its components and inject this components into a
    modified combustion chamber.diba?
    Yap, sakto jud na bro. so mangita jud ta paagi nga maka save ani!

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