Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[Tirong-say]

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you are the one who believes on such, and so you abhorred and damned yourself in the process.

i think we should go back to the topic, sir.

Sorry, it's so erroneous, I know for I could see it in you, but sorry not in me..........and this is a part of the topic.......for the devil is the culprit of vatican2....

[regnauld]

The devil as an entity is perhaps mans greatest deception. I love ANGELS AND DEMONS where you meet actually the real devils in the vatican!

[Tirong-say]

The devil as an entity is perhaps mans greatest deception. I love ANGELS AND DEMONS where you meet actually the real devils in the vatican!

Yes in vatican2................................

[Hellblazer 2.1]

Sorry, it's so erroneous, I know for I could see it in you, but sorry not in me..........and this is a part of the topic.......for the devil is the culprit of vatican2....

you presume too much. how could you say that you see it in me? when you don't even know me. see what in me? the devil? that's a compliment, i'm flattered. but sadly, i'm not.

you seem to know a lot about the church's ultimate infamous created imagination, the devil. tell me, have you met the devil for a cup of coffee? or for chit-chat perhaps? or, do you still depend on the church to describe the devil for you? wait, don't tell me. he has two horns, he has a goatee, he has batwings, he has a tail, and he carries around a big fork. that is way too fairy tale, sir.

a guy your age who still believes in fairy tales? good luck.

[seven_segment]

Mods, kindly please Close this thread coz this is not related to spirituality and occult but politics of the catholic Church between vatican 1 and vatican 2!

OT: adto lang i-transfer sa politics thread...hehehe

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hmmm...kinda interesting...la ko kahibaw anang 62 reasons da...hehe

[Tirong-say]

you presume too much. how could you say that you see it in me? when you don't even know me. see what in me? the devil? that's a compliment, i'm flattered. but sadly, i'm not.

you seem to know a lot about the church's ultimate infamous created imagination, the devil. tell me, have you met the devil for a cup of coffee? or for chit-chat perhaps? or, do you still depend on the church to describe the devil for you? wait, don't tell me. he has two horns, he has a goatee, he has batwings, he has a tail, and he carries around a big fork. that is way too fairy tale, sir.

a guy your age who still believes in fairy tales? good luck.

Nope, his doings will tell who he is, not how he looks like.............let us say evil and anti GOD deeds..
I'm glad to know that I am wrong, one presumption is not much.....I guess...

[Hellblazer 2.1]

the devil's doings? i tell you sir, man is perfectly capable of doing evil things without the help of the devil. the notion of a devil is a way too much over-rated scapegoat invented by the church as an excuse to throw the blame unto. but in reality, there is no devil and we are solely responsible for our misdeeds.

can you honestly blame the devil for your mistakes, sir? can you use that defense in a court of law? i don't think so. the belief in the existence of a devil is a desperate attempt to escape responsibility thereby having someone to blame to.

[Tirong-say]

the devil's doings? i tell you sir, man is perfectly capable of doing evil things without the help of the devil. the notion of a devil is a way too much over-rated scapegoat invented by the church as an excuse to throw the blame unto. but in reality, there is no devil and we are solely responsible for our misdeeds.

can you honestly blame the devil for your mistakes, sir? can you use that defense in a court of law? i don't think so. the belief in the existence of a devil is a desperate attempt to escape responsibility thereby having someone to blame to.

Let me ask you, do you believe in GOD?...........................

[Hellblazer 2.1]

which God are you referring to, sir?

[Tirong-say]

which God are you referring to, sir?

The Holy Father..........
The Father of Jesus Christ...........