Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[The_Child]

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basin ang pagtuo nila false religion ang vatican 2 nya true religion ang vatican 1...pareho raman nang false! hehehehe!

i dont have to justify myself to lesser creatures.

But one thing in mind, as i was conversing with a baptist pastor one time, i asked him why is it that most if not all christian sects share the tradition with the Church of having the four gospels accounts (luke, Matthew, john, mark) as the canonical text in the bible, whereas there are as many as 100+ gospel accounts by different authors? why do they follow the Church of having this four gospel accounts and why not use the others?

Even if the pope is an antipope? you still support the church?

the problem is we could not know for certainty that there really is a sede vacante, could we? that is why there is Faith. basic catechism teaches us that it is the Holy Spirit that will guide the church. for me, i leave it to faith. the politics of Rome are merely peripheral issues. we should not confuse the tree for the forest. and besides, I dont like to relish too long on conspiracy theories.

but how will God answer?

one would know. you could not use a scientific yard-stick. This is Faith. And as ive earlier said, its a gift.

The_Child...what's the difference between Vat. 1 and 2?

they are church councils, the former occured in the 19th century while the latter around the 20th century. I dont want to break into detail, so you might want to ask mr. google.
my professor would joke that in the third vatican council, the bishops will be bringing their wives, while in the fourth vatican council they will be bringing their husbands.

[Tirong-say]

because nobody here is giving me a straight answer, gamit na lang ko og google.

from what I have read mas ganahan ko sa Vatican 2 sa aspect sa mass kay dili magtalikod ang pari sa mga tao, then dili pod estrikto kay puede ta maka visit og lain nga church basta lang padayon gihapon sa pag attend og mass, then ganahan pod ko sa concept nga naai malowas outside sa Catholic church.

I think it is not a matter of acting but by faith and devotion, I am not against another church, we have the same goal that is to love and follow the devine GOD. The aim is just the same to grant man salvation.

[maddox_pitt]

different jud mao bitaw nilayas mi nila!

oh...now i know why daghan mo ug pangdaot sa Catholic...
i was invited once to your church by my teacher in college..tinuod jud madungog nimo tanan na dautan if musulod mo...so if maminaw, nah...maconvert jud ka....


i wonder why other religions keeps on saying things against Catholicism?pwede ra man guru mag.preach base sa bible w/o mentioning other religions with different faiths... i don't know about others, pero i haven't heard of a single priest preach of something against another religion... they even tell us it's useless to debate kay pareha ra na'y masulti...may nalang wala respeto na lang sa uban...

[LightBearer]

they are church councils, the former occured in the 19th century while the latter around the 20th century. I dont want to break into detail, so you might want to ask mr. google.
my professor would joke that in the third vatican council, the bishops will be bringing their wives, while in the fourth vatican council they will be bringing their husbands.

good one!!! lols.

im checking google right now.

[maddox_pitt]

i dont have to justify myself to lesser creatures.

right... hehe lolz

[LightBearer]

I think what the Vatican 2 is doing is, She is re-directing the course of the church to fit the coming changes of the future, which is now and the coming years. She is expanding her arms and re-expressing the essence of Universalism and Love based on the teachings of the Catholic church.

[maddox_pitt]

I think it is not a matter of acting but by faith and devotion, I am not against another church, we have the same goal that is to love and follow the devine GOD. The aim is just the same to grant man salvation.

that's true... same ra atong aim..
why fight or debate? it's useless.... depende ra jud asa ka nahan mutuo...

[Tirong-say]

The original teaching's of Jesus Christ should be upheld and followed, he did not say that we should revise anything that he ought us to follow............

[Tirong-say]

that's true... same ra atong aim..
why fight or debate? it's useless.... depende ra jud asa ka nahan mutuo...

Yup, basta dili lang ang dark side maoy simbahon.........wala gyuy question ana......

[Alramzz]

I think what the Vatican 2 is doing is, She is re-directing the course of the church to fit the coming changes of the future, which is now and the coming years. She is expanding her arms and re-expressing the essence of Universalism and Love based on the teachings of the Catholic church.

Yes, Re-directing the course of the church to destruction,. but as Jesus said on Matthew 16:18..

that is why many Catholic and True priest have its Faith to bring back the traditional mass which satan been trying invalidate,.