Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[bungot25]

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The mass is still valid although degraded. You can still go to a church that offers traditional/old mass but not a church that is not in communion with the pope. I know there are traditional Catholic churches which are not in communion with the pope. There are valid churches pa naman na ga-service japon ug traditional/old mass

dinhi sa Cebu naa?? are you attending SSPX??

[xiao-xiao]

dinhi sa Cebu naa?? are you attending SSPX??

dili mn ko taga Cebu. I'm from Iligan City. I'm not attending SSPX and murag wala mn SSPX diri. research na lng kung naa ba ga-offer ug traditional mass dira sa inyo.

anyway, about the New Mass, I'm very against about the communion in hand and I feel very guilty when I receive it in hand.

[xiao-xiao]

Here are some of the messages of our Lord to Veronica emphasizing how He hates the changes in the church but ask us to remain with the church. Division will do us no good.

RETURN CHURCH TO ITS FORMER
STATUS OF HONOR, GLORY, DISCIPLINE
“The way has been given to you in the past,
and the way does not change. It is a simple
way. The rules have been given and you
change them for what? Were they imperfect?
Have you considered the Eternal Father to be
in error? I say unto you, you blaspheme in
your consecration. I say unto you, you will
return My House to its former status of
honor, glory, discipline. You must, as
shepherds, give a firm example of holiness.
“My children, the saints in Heaven cry for
all of the abominations being committed in
My House upon earth, the Church. We do
not want a separation within the ranks.
United you will stand; divided you will fall!
“There was great unity in My House
upon earth, but man became unpious, unholy,
and with itching ears he has listened to
doctrines set forth by demons. Now, My
shepherds, you will close your ears to your
modernists and those who seek change and
who will build a church of man. No, I say
unto you, this shall not be tolerated by the
Eternal Father! You are permitted a long rule
for reason. The Eternal Father hopes, in His
merciful heart, that you will come out of your
slumber and see the light. You are walking in
darkness.”
Jesus, July 15, 1977


THOSE WHO DIVIDE THEMSELVES
SHALL FALL
“We do not condemn those who make these
side churches, the Traditional Roman Catholic
churches; they mean well, but they are being
led astray. There will be eventually an
American Catholic Church if this continues.
This is not approved by Heaven. Man’s
judgment can always err, especially when he
discounts the knowledge of the supernatural.
“Remember, My children, I have asked
you to remain steadfast in your parish
churches, even though it will be a crucifixion
to you. We cannot have schism in the United
States and Canada. For those who are united
shall stand, and those who divide themselves
shall fall. My child and My children, do not
discount this part of the Message from
Heaven. It is most urgent that this breaking
away stop now before it evolves into a major
schism.”
Jesus, September 14, 1985

[Alramzz]

finally a thread for this,. subay-bay lang ko ani na thread,.

lisod jud ning traditional mass cuz it would be a latin mass, but its a true and a beautiful mass,. unfortunately sa tv or sa youtube nlang nako makita,. hope someday it would be back soon,. as Matthew 16:18 says..

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

[xiao-xiao]

naa mn daw traditional/old mass na dili latin ang gamit na language.

[Alramzz]

latin is official language of the catholic church.

@ xiaoxiao you mean naay traditional mass na bisaya or english ? vernacular,, masses..

ako na basa na only 30% na lang ramain in the traditional mass in vernacular,.

traditional mass sauna ang pari mag harap sa altar,. means all are in audience of God,.

[regnauld]

LATIN IS A DEAD LANGUAGE and cannot be used anymore by the second vatican council.

[rynzco]

The ideas of the Second Vatican Council are suggested by the cardinals and bishops who are secretly member of the Freemasons.

according to Illuminati conspiracy sakto ni....

[LightBearer]

I told my wife about this...wala siyay idea kay dugay na siya walay update kumbaga sa unsa nay nahitabo sa Catholic Church, so she asked me this question but since wala koy alamg ani sa inyo nako ni e ask...

unsa diay difference sa Vatican1 and 2? and unsa pasabot ni xiao nga naai mga church nga not in communion with the Pope?

[The_Child]

conspiracy theorist ends up haunted to their graves with ghosts that may never have existed.
it is the same with those who problemize things beyond their control - as if they could solve the problem of poverty, which until now is unanswered by the brightest of economic minds, in a single day or a week.