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  1. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    Believe me or not, but many people would still want to vote Gwen again as governor. Why? Perhaps they really felt the changes. Perhaps their angst and resentment against Tomas and his attached strings weighs more to them than the allegations hurled against Garcia. Perhaps the more Tomas quarrels Gwen, the more probincyanos sympathize with her.
    I agree that Gwen can still win in the coming elections but I have to disagree with your reason. With their funds, influence, machinery and current political position, how could they lose?

    Matud pa ni Marcos, you are dumb if you lose an election when you are in the incumbent position.

    The only reason Gwen will win is that is there is NO REAL CONTENDER.
    Last edited by LytSlpr; 12-28-2009 at 03:59 AM.

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by noysabas View Post
    unya nako motoo basta maka kita ko sa video about ani.......
    wala pa listing bro kay ang mga concerned parties pa ang gui inform. wala pa actual graduation thereby wala pa actual listing sa final honor list.

    even if nag ka-lata imo relatives sa LA, if they are not into academics they will not hear anything.
    usahay mag silingan dili gani mag dungog, diba?

    Also don't rely too much info sa Google Bai. I can give you a thousand list of questions you can't find in Google. I can also give a thousand info you can find in Google that are not true.

    __________________________________________________ ___________________________________

    The case of Miguel:
    He has a temper and tantrums but he did his best not to tarnish the (already bad) reputation
    of his family for the last 18 years. He blew his top, BUT ......

    If it were my girlfriend they got drunk and left by the bar unconcious, i will not only
    threaten them, I will bury them alive with a backhoe i will steal from Capitol.

    If you guys can't get the drift, I dunno what else can.

  3. #103

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    Nindota ni nga balita gud.. Miguel represents Cebuano to UCLA and he got the highest honor.. Nganong di man mo proud.. Kung unsa man iyang bati nga napakita lahi sadna nga istorya.. ang topic kay he is the Summa Cum Laude and he is a Cebuano, we should be proud of that..

    Kaso ang uban diri.. magbuhat man ug laing istorya, tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

  4. #104

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    Proud ko ni miguel kay taga cebu city ko ug purong sugbuanon gyud! idol pa gyud naku iyang papa c mayor tommy osmeņa. miguel osmeņa for mayor napud ko ani soon...

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlhl@7 View Post
    Kaso ang uban diri.. magbuhat man ug laing istorya, tsk.. tsk.. tsk..
    sakto jd. especially kanang mga suya-on.

    oooooooooooops!

    bato-bato sa langit...
    ang matama-an, h'wag magalit!

  6. #106

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    para di ma-ilad, i-confirm una.

    basta para sa akoa karon, usa ra akong na-confirm, mas nisikat si miguel osmena atong news nga namusil daw siya ug digicam. unya ra ko ma-proud kung naay proof nga dili siya to kay unsa iyang gibuhat, wa niya atubanga ang namasangil niya kay mo-eskwela pa daw siya, unya karon summa cum laude dayon ang nabalita? gikan ra baya na mga istoryaha ni mayor tom. klaro na kaayo na nga tactics, whitewash ang tawag ana.

    kung ganahan mo i-confirm, i-search iyang name sa google

    Miguel Osmena - Google Search

    sus wa pa gani masulod sa politika, klaro na kaayo sa pattern.

    sumala unsa gibuhat ni gwen atong na-issue na ug maayo ang balili, nagpalaban sa papa, then nilarga dayon sa gawas kay mamalit daw ug materials etc2x. whitewash na pud.

    tan-awa si gloria, pagka-headline sa maguindanao massacre, gipasa dayon niya sa lain iyang responsibilidad.

    hina na pud tingali kaayo ang uban kung dili sila kita sa pattern sa mga politiko.

    then kung basahon na ninyo ang news ug maayo, gikan RA na ni mayor TOM balitaa. mas maayo pa unta kung nihatag sila ug proof nga di si miguel ang namusil atong digicam lolz, kay ma-proud pa tingali ko, di kay daganan ang issue then mobalik ra kung summa cum laude na. aw kana pud diay, proof pud para anang pagka-summa, kay basin ang bakak gitabonan ra ug lain bakak. pero kung tinuod man gani, mahulog whitewash jafon, so mas maayo nga naay proof ang duha, #1 inosente siya sa mga pasangil, #2 ang diploma.

    links para sa mga nakalimot ani nga issue:

    Cebu mayor?s son in trouble | Sun.Star Network Online

    Remarks on incident posted on Facebook | Sun.Star Network Online



    para makasabot tong mga WA nakasabot... akong i-recap:

    nag-inum ang gf ni miguel osmena then nahubog ug maau, so gikuha ni miguel unya perti niya sukoa, pag-uli nila nadala nila ang cam ni samantha (close friend sa gf ni miguel). pagkaugma ana, nakit-an na lang ni samantha iyang cam nga buslot na kay gipusil then naa pa jud ni text nga sa sunod daw nga mahitabo to, ulo na ni sam ang agian ug bala. then gipangutana sila miguel about sa cam, kabalo mo unsay alibi? gikawat kuno ang cam pag-uli nila. lolz take note, ang cam niabot balik sa balay nila sam. naa ba gud gikawat unya mauli sa tag-iya then naa pay pakapin nga death threat? so mao to nilarga sila sa los angeles kay sugod na daw ang klase sa ucla, wa na lang gani sila mokiha sa mga namasangil.

    my theory is kaning balitaa ni about sa pagka-summa cum laude, ang purpose ani kay para ma-whitewash ni mayor tom kato nga issue nga iyang anak nangaway ug babaye, unya palaban pa jud pusil lolz

  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlhl@7 View Post
    Nindota ni nga balita gud.. Miguel represents Cebuano to UCLA and he got the highest honor.. Nganong di man mo proud.. Kung unsa man iyang bati nga napakita lahi sadna nga istorya.. ang topic kay he is the Summa Cum Laude and he is a Cebuano, we should be proud of that..

    Kaso ang uban diri.. magbuhat man ug laing istorya, tsk.. tsk.. tsk..
    basin duna gui-buhat na dautan si Miguel nila. basin.

    Bitaw if buot huna-hunaon, that incident is not even public. It was a private matter and Miguel has
    all the right to get mad. Bisan sa ka isug sa atoang mayor wala gyud ra ba na nag gara-gara si Miguel publicly. Privately he has tantrums like ma suko ang all. Kamo dili? Tawo ra man na siya?

    There was no gun totting nor gun pointing. putting a bullet in that camera was just a message. Suko cya.
    unya buot diay ta/mo/ko if masuko cya? nganon wala nila gui kiha ug damage to property?

    Para nako HILAS ra kaayo mo sulti uban diri abot sa batasan ni Miguel kay naka basa lang mo one single private incident involving ila mga barkada. He trusted the girls to take care of her girlfriend, unya gui biyaan ra. ikaw, kamo malipay ka? If imo to igsoon, imo to uyab mo smile ra ka? ngano diay mag action sila, kita ra diay kama-o?

    Miguel is a good shooter, in fact tinuod na nga mag dala na cya ug daghan armas, mura na ug armory eya sakyanan pero sa firing range ra gyud na mo gawas. unya sala diay na?

    Hilas ako tawag sa mga tawo dili maka appreciate ug ACADEMIC achievement as in wala sila nag kalisud-lisud pag tuon sa ila tibuok College days. Kana kung ni graduate man gani.... Tumbling mo uy!

    Ngano atoa man pud e compare si Atty. Garcia ug Miguel?
    kabalo ba mo pila eya na kuarta sa Japanese Tourist nga ila gui kiha? Ni bayad man para maka uli tawon.
    Na nukmag daw ang hapon? Dili kana kuhit ra kay gusto mo agi ang hapon mo kuha sa eya luggage?
    unya na tandog ang garbo sa bag-o nga nahimong abogada kay anak cya sa Gobernador?
    wala mo give way mao to nahimong lalis sa carousel s airport?
    Gui pa dakop hinoon ang tourista. Sayop ang turista kay wala kaila sa abogada nga Garcia.
    Mao to eya maiden case, aw siempre daug dayun.
    Mao ni nindot nga pag promote sa Cebu, Apikihon ang mga langyaw.

    by the way i am not pro-Osmena, i write articles and contribute speak out columns about their palpaks too... and am not a journalist ha basin ma AC-DC ta ani.

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikud View Post
    basin duna gui-buhat na dautan si Miguel nila. basin.

    Bitaw if buot huna-hunaon, that incident is not even public. It was a private matter and Miguel has
    all the right to get mad. Bisan sa ka isug sa atoang mayor wala gyud ra ba na nag gara-gara si Miguel publicly. Privately he has tantrums like ma suko ang all. Kamo dili? Tawo ra man na siya?

    There was no gun totting nor gun pointing. putting a bullet in that camera was just a message. Suko cya.
    unya buot diay ta/mo/ko if masuko cya? nganon wala nila gui kiha ug damage to property?

    Para nako HILAS ra kaayo mo sulti uban diri abot sa batasan ni Miguel kay naka basa lang mo one single private incident involving ila mga barkada. He trusted the girls to take care of her girlfriend, unya gui biyaan ra. ikaw, kamo malipay ka? If imo to igsoon, imo to uyab mo smile ra ka? ngano diay mag action sila, kita ra diay kama-o?

    Miguel is a good shooter, in fact tinuod na nga mag dala na cya ug daghan armas, mura na ug armory eya sakyanan pero sa firing range ra gyud na mo gawas. unya sala diay na?

    Hilas ako tawag sa mga tawo dili maka appreciate ug ACADEMIC achievement as in wala sila nag kalisud-lisud pag tuon sa ila tibuok College days. Kana kung ni graduate man gani.... Tumbling mo uy!

    Ngano atoa man pud e compare si Atty. Garcia ug Miguel?
    kabalo ba mo pila eya na kuarta sa Japanese Tourist nga ila gui kiha? Ni bayad man para maka uli tawon.
    Na nukmag daw ang hapon? Dili kana kuhit ra kay gusto mo agi ang hapon mo kuha sa eya luggage?
    unya na tandog ang garbo sa bag-o nga nahimong abogada kay anak cya sa Gobernador?
    wala mo give way mao to nahimong lalis sa carousel s airport?
    Gui pa dakop hinoon ang tourista. Sayop ang turista kay wala kaila sa abogada nga Garcia.
    Mao to eya maiden case, aw siempre daug dayun.
    Mao ni nindot nga pag promote sa Cebu, Apikihon ang mga langyaw.

    by the way i am not pro-Osmena, i write articles and contribute speak out columns about their palpaks too... and am not a journalist ha basin ma AC-DC ta ani.
    yeah right. he has all the right to get mad but no right to damage a property and send death threats. That is, if and only if the allegation is true. Tawo ra lage but under sa atong laws, naay limit ang buhat sa tawo. Besides, he is not a child anymore.

    Some would like to praise his academic excellence, but we can never blame some people to think the summa cum laude announcement by the Mayor has something to do to change people's negative perception about his son since that death threat incident. That I think is not a hinilas nga reaction. Lahi-lahi lang gyud ug views ang tawo.

    yeah I know that some people immediately jumped to conclusions about Miguel by hearing one-sided stories from the victim and her friends. But that's reality. He is the mayor's son and public criticisms cannot only be limited to the mayor only. In fact, being the wife and son of a mayor makes them public figures too.

    Suma gud nanaway ka sa incident involving between Gwen's daughter and that non-grata Japanese national. But your view on the matter is not shared by everyone...some would say the daughter is just exercising her rights as a Filipino and a woman, but some would say it is an overkill and compassion should have been a better solution.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 12-28-2009 at 11:45 AM.

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikud View Post
    basin duna gui-buhat na dautan si Miguel nila. basin.

    Bitaw if buot huna-hunaon, that incident is not even public. It was a private matter and Miguel has
    all the right to get mad. Bisan sa ka isug sa atoang mayor wala gyud ra ba na nag gara-gara si Miguel publicly. Privately he has tantrums like ma suko ang all. Kamo dili? Tawo ra man na siya?

    There was no gun totting nor gun pointing. putting a bullet in that camera was just a message. Suko cya.
    unya buot diay ta/mo/ko if masuko cya? nganon wala nila gui kiha ug damage to property?

    Para nako HILAS ra kaayo mo sulti uban diri abot sa batasan ni Miguel kay naka basa lang mo one single private incident involving ila mga barkada. He trusted the girls to take care of her girlfriend, unya gui biyaan ra. ikaw, kamo malipay ka? If imo to igsoon, imo to uyab mo smile ra ka? ngano diay mag action sila, kita ra diay kama-o?

    Miguel is a good shooter, in fact tinuod na nga mag dala na cya ug daghan armas, mura na ug armory eya sakyanan pero sa firing range ra gyud na mo gawas. unya sala diay na?

    Hilas ako tawag sa mga tawo dili maka appreciate ug ACADEMIC achievement as in wala sila nag kalisud-lisud pag tuon sa ila tibuok College days. Kana kung ni graduate man gani.... Tumbling mo uy!

    Ngano atoa man pud e compare si Atty. Garcia ug Miguel?
    kabalo ba mo pila eya na kuarta sa Japanese Tourist nga ila gui kiha? Ni bayad man para maka uli tawon.
    Na nukmag daw ang hapon? Dili kana kuhit ra kay gusto mo agi ang hapon mo kuha sa eya luggage?
    unya na tandog ang garbo sa bag-o nga nahimong abogada kay anak cya sa Gobernador?
    wala mo give way mao to nahimong lalis sa carousel s airport?
    Gui pa dakop hinoon ang tourista. Sayop ang turista kay wala kaila sa abogada nga Garcia.
    Mao to eya maiden case, aw siempre daug dayun.
    Mao ni nindot nga pag promote sa Cebu, Apikihon ang mga langyaw.

    by the way i am not pro-Osmena, i write articles and contribute speak out columns about their palpaks too... and am not a journalist ha basin ma AC-DC ta ani.
    You are right, it's not what we know but what we can prove. Trial by publicity.

    Unfortunately, the public's clamor for blood is very high just like Jesus and Barabas.

    Nabutang man gani si Paco Larannaga sa crime scene bisan naa siya sa Manila. Paco and Miguel are nowhere near the likes of Jesus but the logic is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    You are right, it's not what we know but what we can prove. Trial by publicity.

    Unfortunately, the public's clamor for blood is very high just like Jesus and Barabas.

    Nabutang man gani si Paco Larannaga sa crime scene bisan naa siya sa Manila. Paco and Miguel are nowhere near the likes of Jesus but the logic is the same.
    hmmm. Trial by publicity. That facebook posting by the victim and reaction of her friends could also be classified under "trial by publicity".

    But that case w/ Gwen's daughter isn't coz even the Japanese did not deny the wrongdoing. What is trial by publicity is that an allegation is making the person guilty already.

    Mao2x rana istoryaha gud kad2 gi bar ni Margot Osmena ang international aktress nga c Claire Danes from entering the Phils because Ms. Danes shouted at her at the Mactan airport: "Why are you staring at me like that, you bitch?" (not the exact words basta naay "bitch" nga word).

    The only difference is that the former is physical abuse while the latter was verbal abuse.

    That Claire Danes incident created a lot of differing views ranging from those saying Danes deserved the persona non-grata to those saying Margot was really a bitch.

    As to the Paco case, it is not under trial by publicity anymore coz he was already convicted of the crime. Perhaps at first. But later on, what the people think of Paco at the instance of the crime was committed was validated. Meaning, their thinking that Paco is guilty is already proven true. We cannot also dismiss the fact that he is related to the Osmenas and somehow created another impression on the people about the Osmenas. Samot pa gyud gi pun-an aning kaso ni Miguel...
    Last edited by giddyboy; 12-28-2009 at 12:22 PM.

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