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    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    .. yes, it's natural to ask questions, but it's a different thing if you ask a question with the intention of just insulting the people you ask.


    .. and talking about truth, well, there is no absolute truth. We can compare this so called TRUTH to music. Music has different types of genres and each genre is represented by it's fans and the people who listen to music has their own preference. I for example like progressive rock music, while my sister like ballads and my mother likes the classics.

    .. it's the same with religion, each religion has a different interpretation of the Bible or whatever source they have. and each has it's own way or should i say practices and rituals. But the only common denominator of all the religion is simply to love and respect your fellow man. That's how simple this really is. Simple yet other people make it complicated.


    .. and using the word "persuasion" is very strong, no one should persuade nor invite anyone to join his or her religion nor say that his religion is best, that for me is very wrong, like i always say, respect each other and everything will be fine.

    .. i'm an atheist and yet i dont have any problems with a religious person. I have been bashed upon and condemned by many religious people, saying that my soul will burn in hell and all that punishment coz i don't believe in God.. The only response i can give them is thank you for your concern, let's just all wait till we die..
    I absolutely agree with you. We all need to respect each other even though we disagree in our views.

    What do you mean, though, bro when you said that there is no such thing as absolute truth? You mean everything is relative? What's true for you may not be true for me, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    ... sorry, but i cant help but laugh with your statement here. you can't even understand the expression of THERE YOU GO... .it has the same meaning if I say.. SEE, YOU WERE MERELY PROVOKING THEM.
    trust me I know what "there you go means" hahayz, , misrepresenting my statement again. tsk tsk..that's bad.

    What im trying to say to you fin is... and listen carefully...why are you surprise with my intention to challenge them,it was obvious in my first post, pagkakaduha nga post paka kasabot nga I was challenging them. read it carefully next time okay so you wont misrepresent what I said, its not a good habit.

    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin
    .. and if you understood faith, you shouldn't look for hard evidence, the evidence the believers can give you are the words from the bible. The faithful believe that the Bible is the word of God, they can give you verses from the Bible for answers.
    don't assume too much fin, I know exactly what FAITH means , but it seems that our friends here have no idea what it means. If there is one guy here who understood what's going on is Existanz, I even gave him a bow smiley.


    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin
    .. and dude, you're asking the wrong people, don't ask the believers for HARD EVIDENCE of God, coz they can't give it to you. ask the atheist or the scientists. Even they can't even present hard evidence that you seek.
    fin they claimed that God exist, so I have to ask them for the evidence. Atheists and Scientists care less for any evidence of the existence of a supernatural being. You got it mixed up.

    I will end my discussion with you here.


    and to all the guys here, please don't take things seriously here. Merry Christmas!!!

  3. #143

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    i respect the concept of atheism but i could never be an atheist. but nevertheless, merry christmas to you too.

  4. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I absolutely agree with you. We all need to respect each other even though we disagree in our views.

    What do you mean, though, bro when you said that there is no such thing as absolute truth? You mean everything is relative? What's true for you may not be true for me, etc.?

    .. well, yeah, just in terms of religion though. Not in everything. There are "truths" that are actually true, like those scientific facts and all that has been proven by science, for me those are the real truths. But in religion, everything is relative, it depends on one's interpretation of whatever source he has. It's quite evident here in istorya, if you look at the discussions with religion, everybody has a different opinion or interpretation of it. But then, it's just my opinion....



    @gotter ....

    .. i lost interest in you when you made this statement, you can't comprehend a simple expression

    what do you mean "there you go" and "merely provoking them"?

    ..and let me tell you this for the last time, if you're so eager to know where God is ( wether he exist or not ), find it out yourself, you say that you want the answer NOW, well, go ahead, DIE. you'll answer all your questions of the intangible when you're dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    .. well, yeah, just in terms of religion though. Not in everything. There are "truths" that are actually true, like those scientific facts and all that has been proven by science, for me those are the real truths. But in religion, everything is relative, it depends on one's interpretation of whatever source he has. It's quite evident here in istorya, if you look at the discussions with religion, everybody has a different opinion or interpretation of it. But then, it's just my opinion....
    Why in religion only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    gi-lecture-an ko nimo ug being a scientist?
    --- omg, im not lecturing you oi... just because u believe you can become one... mao ni imong message... i tell you NO IT DOESN't WORK THAT WAY. Bantug diay mo 2o mi naay panuway, mga panuway napod mi... lols! what a brain.
    you are lecturing kebz.. what do you know about logic? you have so many reading comprehension mistakes, and very weird logic.. what do you know about being a scientist when you don't even know what science is all about?

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    lage kebz.. bisag unsa-on na nimo ug bale2x imong logic, murag naa jud problema imong reading comprehension..
    --- no more argument? hehehe ka alegre

    atheistic satanists? that's an oxy*****..
    --- lols tell it to mr. laVey, why do you complain he incorporate athiest and satanist? how come you took thier liberty to do so... to tell you blue... oxy*****? lols, you are loosing it blue. Maybe its a bad publicity to athiesm... lets fry it.
    a lot of people make up their own words.. so kay abi mao ingon ni lavey, tuo pud ka niya? ka-weak pud nimo oi.. unsa man evidence ni lavey na satanist sya in the sense of the one in the religion? there are so many people out there making bad name for others, and most of it in religion..

    but in the name of science.. it serves humanity as a whole.. what has religion done in the 20th century? look at religion.. its just reduced to money making business.. personally, religion has failed its purpose for educating the public on morals.. but can u do the same for science? has science failed in educating the public on knowledge and reason?

    so if ikaw, tuo ka ni lavey, go ahead, tuo niya.. but he's not the authority on satanism.. my gosh.. hehe.. u believe anything that will go against your own religion.. even when its not really serving any good purpose..

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Do you mean that "God" for you is only a concept and is not actually real?
    God is as real as it gets.. but u have to experience it yourself..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    you are lecturing kebz.. what do you know about logic? you have so many reading comprehension mistakes, and very weird logic.. what do you know about being a scientist when you don't even know what science is all about?



    a lot of people make up their own words.. so kay abi mao ingon ni lavey, tuo pud ka niya? ka-weak pud nimo oi.. unsa man evidence ni lavey na satanist sya in the sense of the one in the religion? there are so many people out there making bad name for others, and most of it in religion..

    but in the name of science.. it serves humanity as a whole.. what has religion done in the 20th century? look at religion.. its just reduced to money making business.. personally, religion has failed its purpose for educating the public on morals.. but can u do the same for science? has science failed in educating the public on knowledge and reason?

    so if ikaw, tuo ka ni lavey, go ahead, tuo niya.. but he's not the authority on satanism.. my gosh.. hehe.. u believe anything that will go against your own religion.. even when its not really serving any good purpose..
    a lot of people make up their own words.. so kay abi mao ingon ni lavey, tuo pud ka niya? ka-weak pud nimo oi.. unsa man evidence ni lavey na satanist sya in the sense of the one in the religion?
    --- if you become an ignorant its ok... if you want to be an arrogant its ur problem... Check out his satanist Church... hahay! spoonfeed pa? i thought mr. sayantes the way to verify is to research.. now u FAILED.

    but in the name of science.. it serves humanity as a whole..
    --- when you force us to believe your evo, it does not serve the humanity... it serves your interest... bleeh!

    what has religion done in the 20th century?
    --- reasearch mr. sayantes... go as mr. google.

    so if ikaw, tuo ka ni lavey, go ahead, tuo niya.. but he's not the authority on satanism..
    --- he wrote a book and some people believe in his work... u have problem with that.. go shot mr. lavey.. lols

    has science failed in educating the public on knowledge and reason?
    --- hitler use evolution to validate his claim... it is ok to exterminate the inferior. DOES IT? pft!

    Blue I love to promote ATHIESM, SATANISM, COMMUNISM... THEY ARE INDEED SIMILAR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    a lot of people make up their own words.. so kay abi mao ingon ni lavey, tuo pud ka niya? ka-weak pud nimo oi.. unsa man evidence ni lavey na satanist sya in the sense of the one in the religion?
    --- if you become an ignorant its ok... if you want to be an arrogant its ur problem... Check out his satanist Church... hahay! spoonfeed pa? i thought mr. sayantes the way to verify is to research.. now u FAILED.

    but in the name of science.. it serves humanity as a whole..
    --- when you force us to believe your evo, it does not serve the humanity... it serves your interest... bleeh!

    what has religion done in the 20th century?
    --- reasearch mr. sayantes... go as mr. google.

    so if ikaw, tuo ka ni lavey, go ahead, tuo niya.. but he's not the authority on satanism..
    --- he wrote a book and some people believe in his work... u have problem with that.. go shot mr. lavey.. lols

    has science failed in educating the public on knowledge and reason?
    --- hitler use evolution to validate his claim... it is ok to exterminate the inferior. DOES IT? pft!

    Blue I love to promote ATHIESM, SATANISM, COMMUNISM... THEY ARE INDEED SIMILAR...

    dream on, kebz.. satanist is from the word satan, which is the one in the bible.. do lavey satanist even believe in satan in the bible? bottomline is, they're not the satanist that you claim to be.. they're satanist in a different sense.. which is not satanist anymore in the original sense.. even u cannot refute that simple logic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    dream on, kebz.. satanist is from the word satan, which is the one in the bible.. do lavey satanist even believe in satan in the bible? bottomline is, they're not the satanist that you claim to be.. they're satanist in a different sense.. which is not satanist anymore in the original sense.. even u cannot refute that simple logic..
    Satanism

    Main article: Satanism
    Avowedly Satanic groups have various opinions about Satan, ranging from the conviction that he exists and ought to be worshipped (theistic Satanism), to Anton Szandor LaVey's symbolic interpretation, which emphasizes individual will and pleasure-seeking.
    Satan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    no need to refute blue, its only you who tries his best to deny the atheistic satanism... Unfortunately it has already rooted before you are born (1966). As to what i think about athiesm and satanism, they are both oxy***** in itself... but who cares... live with it blue. BAD PUBLICITY? hehehe I like it

    Satanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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