Christianity and violence!

[regnauld]

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Cute response but the Biblical text were a people writing their own personal history of their people and their relationship with their God. God picked them because all the rest of the world's people were not considered worthy in his eyes. The Hebrews were his favorite. Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. If you are not a natural born Jew, than you are a Gentiles. Gentiles were not considered worthy, for we are less than dogs. Christ came for the Jews not us, but they refused him and that opened the door for the Gentiles. We dogs took their text and twisted their religion to what ever shape we choose was worthy for us. God gave his laws to the Hebrews, Jesus gave his message first to the Hebrew and his Apostles to the Gentiles. The early follower did not consider religion when they wrote the text, they were documenting the words and laws of God and the Christ. Religions which sprang out of those writing is man's invention and a man made concept. Frankly if you just read the text, Jesus said pray in a closet and in secret, that the temple is in the heart, and to tear down the temple.

You go to church and the priest, pastor, or preacher tells you to give him tithes, and how you sin to God if you do not do so. WHY? The Old Testament explains Tithes. 12 tribes of Israel-11 tribes gave tithes to the tribe of Levite. The Levites were instructed who to spend the tithes to maintain the Holy Temple. Is there now a Holt Temple? No it was destroyed. Jesus the Son of God never asked for money for his teachings, Why? He was not a Levite, and for him to accept money was a blaspheme and a sin towards God. If a man ask you for a tithe it is a blaspheme, and if you give him you tithe it is a sin. No church is the Holy Temple, no Gentile is a Levite, and churches do not distribute the tithes as instructed by God. The church is more concern with your money than your soul----THAT IS MAN'S RELIGION. God and Christ's words are rules and lessons to be learned in fellowship with other believers. You can be butt necked and covered in filth and still receive the word of God and Christ. It is not by going to fancy temples, wearing fine cloths, and acting pious. That is the trick of Satan and the vanity of stupid man. God and Christ's words are truth, man's religions are lies and ignorance of the text.

Only Christ can establish the true church when he returns. His words are Christ's Universal Church and it is in the hearts of man. No Church has the right to claim it is Christ's Universal Church. Read the Bible yourself and show me were I am wrong, and I can look the Pope, Priest, Preachers, and Pastors and call them blaspheming sinning liars. They can not prove me wrong, for the bible they hold and the one you will read will tell you that fact.

And as a fellow Gentile and seeing the responses of many of the unbelievers on this Forum, I am now understand God's reasoning. We are unworthy.

Just a note: If you do read the Bible, use one that ignores the 15th century Latin translations. There are Bibles that go back to the earliest root text (Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic); also read the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and the lost books which most that were not completely lost can be found at The Lost Books of the Bible - The Hidden Truths Then you can understand what man's false religions are trying to hide from you.

So, would you agree that without religion the bible would not have been produced?

[honey89]

So, would you agree that without religion the bible would not have been produced?

What's religion?
What's the first religion ever established?
When is the Bible produced?

I think when makahibaw ta when ang first religion na create and when ang first Bible na produce, mahibaw-an sad nato unsa juy nag-una, di ba?

[regnauld]

What's religion?
What's the first religion ever established?
When is the Bible produced?

I think when makahibaw ta when ang first religion na create and when ang first Bible na produce, mahibaw-an sad nato unsa juy nag-una, di ba?

Asa may nag - una?

a. Hindusim
b. Buddhism
c. Judaism
d. Christianity
e. Islam

Choose the correct answer kuno!

[honey89]

Asa may nag - una?

a. Hindusim
b. Buddhism
c. Judaism
d. Christianity
e. Islam

Choose the correct answer kuno!

Malay ko. You tell me. That's why I'm asking

[regnauld]

Malay ko. You tell me. That's why I'm asking

As far as I know, Hinduism is the oldest and the most ancient religion among the five and in fact they don't call it religion but as a way of life coz every person born in India are automatically called indian or Hindu! The bible of the jews and christians were not yet written during that time. The sacred scripture there was THE BHAGAVAD GITA AND THE VEDAS which includes THE UPANISHADS!

Hinduism: Since Sanskrit is the oldest written language, as far as religion being written down, and as far as organized religion is concerned, it would be Hinduism. It is said that when Rama appeared, according to our calendar, was a million or so years ago (not sure of the exact date, but it's a long time!) And Krishna, God himself according to the Vedic scriptures, appeared here 5,000 years ago. Buddha, about 500 B.C., Jesus, about 2,000 years ago. If you go through the different religious book and study this question deeply, you will find out that Hinduism is the oldest religion of the world. There are no dates and facts, but its history is about more than 50000 thousands years ago.

[skoilhp]

Asa may nag - una?

a. Hindusim
b. Buddhism
c. Judaism
d. Christianity
e. Islam

Choose the correct answer kuno!

is Confucianism a religion or not? how about Taoism?

[regnauld]

is Confucianism a religion or not? how about Taoism?

Yes they are religions esp. in china but they are not considered as major religions in the world only minor religions!

[jamesmusslewhite]

So, would you agree that without religion the bible would not have been produced?

The Bible yes, but without the influence of the greed and power lust of the church. We would have so much more of the story. The bible is 66 ancient text out of over 800. written by different sources and different time mostly on parchment scrolls. Most are stories from our forgotten past. Were the inspired by God? Yes. But I avoid the Latin translates and only use a bible that went to the oldest source text, those written in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The Hebrew Bible and the Lost Books. those Christianity have tried to either destroy or hide. Man wrote the text inspired by God to deliver his word. The text is God trying to reach man. Religion is man attempt to reach God. That is a huge difference and are not the same.

Simple test - a game anyone can play.
Gather a group of twelve friends around a table. Take out a small piece of paper with a short 5 line story. Make it simple and easy to understand. Whisper your story to the one on your left (Keep the note), they in turn whisper your story to the next, who whispers to the next, until each has passed your story around the table. The last person tells your story aloud to the whole group. Then you read your story off the paper you had kept. See how different their storytelling has changed your story first told.

Than considered that Hebrews were forced to orally passed the story of Genesis for 1,000 years, that the Hebrew people had totally lost and then regained their original language (No others in history have done so) When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered they translated a 1,900 year old Genesis text and found 16 mistakes in the newer modern Hebrew text. They were small spelling and Grammar mistakes. Yes I believe they are works inspired by God.

[bodie]

That is the problem, the concept of Religion. Religion is a man made concept. There is the word of God, just man wants to cut it up into groups and then fight over which is right and which is wrong. That's Satan's trick and man just loves to line up and kiss his ass. F__k the concept of Religions you bunch of stupid people. Read the words of God for yourself, live by the words of God, and this will be a good world. Such a simple thing, but everyone has their heads up their asses. It is the greed and petty sensitivities of ignorant men which cause the problems and sufferings in this world. Not religions, but evil men, yes they can use religion as an excuse or vindication for their evil acts, but they are only liars. Evil men make religion evil, by twisting the interpretations and mistranslating Gods words. And stupid people are to willing to follow.

Sweep it under a rug, how not ignoring the root of the problem. Man does not need religion to do evil acts, there are anti religious leaders and societies who have done far worst. Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were Atheist and hated religion too, yet they murdered over 135.7 MILLION OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE- SEVENTY MILLION CITIZENS, and felt justified in their beliefs of no Gods. THREE times as many then were killed in WW1, WW2, KOREAN WAR, VIETNAM, 2 GULF WARS, and AFGHANISTAN. ATHEIST LEADERS KILLED OVER 135.7 MILLION PEOPLE, some report may be as high as 160 million. So lets abolish Atheism and Communism----Lets do not sweep that under the rug!!!! That is a minimum of 10 people for every Filipino man, woman, and child living in the world today. That is sick. How many of them were killed just because they were Jewish, Christians, or Buddhist?
Lenin & Trotsky- 4 Million
Stalin----------- 60 Million
Mao-------------70 Million
Pol Pot----------1.7 Million
135.7 Million
Religion is not the problem, Atheist are not the problem. Evil men and ignorant people that follow them are the root of the problem. Maybe we are aborting the wrong ones?
Find another reason to hate God, and persecute Jews and Christians. But put the blame where it truly belongs. If not that you are just part of the problem and not a solution. Jesus teaches me to forgive my neighbor and love him more than myself. Even evil and stupid people.

Frankly I will be glad when God comes and wipes this world clean of this ignorance. He is coming, which side will you be standing is your choice. Choose wisely.

MAN IS EVIL, AND PEOPLE ARE STUPID********RELIGION IS YOUR ONLY HOPE_FROM FOOLS!

Sorry, but your figures are wrong. Your selectively picking numbers to support your case. The actual number of people killed under stalins regime is 3-60 million people. A very large variance. Its dishonest to suddenly claim 60 million as the actual number just to make your argument look good. And as for that numbet, that includes all the people killed during the war world war. A large portion of whatever the final number is due to the battles that happened.

As for Mao, your picking statistics again. The number is some sources is 50-70 million, while others sources give the number at 40 million.

So 3-60 million deaths under Stalin, 50-70 million under mao. That number includes the deaths due to famine, invasion, murder, political purges... Anyway this site (Twentieth Century Atlas - Most Evil Dictator) has a better breakdown.

On the other hand, deaths caused by religious wars (alone) accounts for 809 million people! (Deaths over history: religious vs. nonreligous Bookrate) 809 million. If you stop and think about the number of people actually present during that times, that number is mind boggling.

Who is the greatest murderer now?


I cant believe how arrogant some (SOME) of you Christians are. Stop and think about what your saying for a moment there. I consider myself an atheist but it seems like I remembered more about the basic tenets of the Christian faith.

Frankly I will be glad when God comes and wipes this world clean of this ignorance. He is coming, which side will you be standing is your choice. Choose wisely.

Hypocrisy.

[chad_tukes]

no surprise. James is fond of labelling those killers as atheists. as i've posted before, and i'll post it again---they did not murder people BECAUSE they were atheists. there is a huge difference if you say they murdered people because they did not believe in God; that certainly wasn't the case. and hold on, where is the Catholic boy Hitler in that list?