unsa nindot ilearn na programming language

[MarkCuering]

sorry to rain on your parade bro.. but visual studio is still slooooooowwwwww..

bitaw, nice na sya pang RAD, pas2x jud tinuod (ang development).. pero hinay japon muload..
do you still use cursor based connections? or dump tanan locally thru firehose (forward-only) and just do batch updates? just asking.. dugay2x na jud ko wa ka hilabot ani visual studio.. 2003 pa intawn to last nko ana..

i'm sure karon, mas-lig-on na jud tingale na ilang mga controls.. pero mao lage, hinayan japon ko.. i prefer to make web-based database appz naman gud karon.. mysql with php, and ext-js or gwt front-end..

Slow? pero nice siya pag RAP kay pas2x? naglibog ko sa comment nimo. basaha nalang ang recommended specs ayaw sa minimum specs. if you plug it on slow pc, don't expect it will run fast. So far, our records reach 15 minutes build time, but it was due to some resource are downloaded all the way from microsoft plugins. but already resolved via virtualization. but in most cases, we let the build process intentionally in slow state, just check on Visual Studio team system.

[kamsky]

@uchihacirxe
The meaning of SQL is. Structured query language.
hahaha. It's a langauge intended for database. I think you do not know SQL because you didn't quite gave the correct answer of that ABBREVIATION. hahahaha. Go back to school.

RAD means rapid application development. Fast development!!!! As you can see, RAD really is good when it comes to meet the deadlines because it's fast, but RAD is only a tool, it only rides on the existing platform (MS windows) <---


@kamsky
you can't run powerbuilder in linux. Some will just use wine or emulator, but still consumes resources... lol!!!!

hahahaha.. wa kay resebo dodie. you are tagged as stupid troll. basaha to summary nako o nga quoted gikan nimo.

Either it's true or false it doesnt disregard if it's a programming language or not.

Another n00b comment: "RAD means rapid application development. Fast development!!!! As you can see, RAD really is good when it comes to meet the deadlines because it's fast, but RAD is only a tool, it only rides on the existing platform (MS windows)"

you can just buy RAD tool just because you are behind shcedule, you have to commit on it.

huh? ride on the existing platform like MS windows? I dont get you. Everyone rides on OS.

[kamsky]

Slow? pero nice siya pag RAP kay pas2x? naglibog ko sa comment nimo. basaha nalang ang recommended specs ayaw sa minimum specs. if you plug it on slow pc, don't expect it will run fast. So far, our records reach 15 minutes build time, but it was due to some resource are downloaded all the way from microsoft plugins. but already resolved via virtualization. but in most cases, we let the build process intentionally in slow state, just check on Visual Studio team system.

i think he mentioned hinay moload on 'runtime' (not build time) i.e. fetching data from db.

Regarding build time with compiled languages, it's normal to have slow build time but it can be addressed by continuous integration i.e. dedicated build server partnered with repository. Problem solved.

Ang argument, is it really that slow that is not usable? Or is it just okay, not that fast but still usable. ATM is still slow IMO but it's usable and nobody is complaining about it. In the end, depende ra na sa nonfunctional/functional requirement.

Do you need to develop it fast, the appication needs to deploy not next Christmas?

Or do you need to create an application that is really critical with response time? like putting pixels in game, google like AJAX in action, charging your account in SMS sent real-time, stock market, etc.

I read an article in game development written C. As you know, C is already fast but the performance is not enough for them. What they did is just do profiling and detect the hotspots (methods/functions/operations that are called many/million times). So they decided to write the hotspot into assembly. Then another successful project.

Therefore choose the right tool.

[MarkCuering]

Therefore choose the right tool.

hope its not PB

[dodie]

you can just buy RAD tool just because you are behind shcedule, you have to commit on it. .

Lols!!!!! Buying is not necessary. There are lots of opensources and free tools out there which does not require buying extra tools. I don't get you, just relying on RAD on every project. hahahahahahahahahahaha

[bluedes]

Slow? pero nice siya pag RAP kay pas2x? naglibog ko sa comment nimo. basaha nalang ang recommended specs ayaw sa minimum specs. if you plug it on slow pc, don't expect it will run fast. So far, our records reach 15 minutes build time, but it was due to some resource are downloaded all the way from microsoft plugins. but already resolved via virtualization. but in most cases, we let the build process intentionally in slow state, just check on Visual Studio team system.

murag wa ka ka-G sa akong comment bro..
si kamsky naka-gets.. hehe.. but no worries..

that's the problem with micro$oft.. always requiring higher minimum specs and more expensive hardware.. all that bloated software not really being efficient with truly minimal specifications.. no offense to micro$oft fans out there, but that's the reality.. its part of the industry business/marketing strategy..

for truly low cost solution (TCO), wa japon makalupig ug free software or open source..
but again, it still boils down to trust and reliability from the customer's perspective.. sometimes, when you don't pay for the software, customer will think its not as reliable as the one they have to pay for.. (which i really cannot blame, coz sometimes, i think that too)

i have my use for windows, but never upgraded my windows xp.. i tried vista, pero grabeh ka resource hog.. and after a stint with .Net 2002 and 2003, napul-an nko sa kahinay.. hehe.. (i hope that windows 7 is fast, i have the option for buying an upgrade at $30 only, pero still thinking kung worth it ba jud, basig muparehas ra pud sa vista na hinay jud) nakatry namo ug windows 7? how is it better than windows xp pro in terms of load time and runtime performance?

[kamsky]

murag wa ka ka-G sa akong comment bro..
si kamsky naka-gets.. hehe.. but no worries..

that's the problem with micro$oft.. always requiring higher minimum specs and more expensive hardware.. all that bloated software not really being efficient with truly minimal specifications.. no offense to micro$oft fans out there, but that's the reality.. its part of the industry business/marketing strategy..

for truly low cost solution (TCO), wa japon makalupig ug free software or open source..
but again, it still boils down to trust and reliability from the customer's perspective.. sometimes, when you don't pay for the software, customer will think its not as reliable as the one they have to pay for.. (which i really cannot blame, coz sometimes, i think that too)

i have my use for windows, but never upgraded my windows xp.. i tried vista, pero grabeh ka resource hog.. and after a stint with .Net 2002 and 2003, napul-an nko sa kahinay.. hehe.. (i hope that windows 7 is fast, i have the option for buying an upgrade at $30 only, pero still thinking kung worth it ba jud, basig muparehas ra pud sa vista na hinay jud) nakatry namo ug windows 7? how is it better than windows xp pro in terms of load time and runtime performance?

side comment ko.

I am still balance with buy vs build. Banks for example cannot afford to risk open source. They have big revenue revenue stream and can afford these tools. If an environment/product is having a problem at least there's a vendor to escalate and that's part of Service Level Agreement (SLA).

re: windows 7 is worth. it makes my 3.5 years laptop newer again. I decided not to buy new laptop. So saving lots of money.

[kamsky]

Lols!!!!! Buying is not necessary. There are lots of opensources and free tools out there which does not require buying extra tools. I don't get you, just relying on RAD on every project. hahahahahahahahahahaha

Otot nimo dodie. Ako ning ipusta akong pikas itlog if you have better open source experience than I do.

[bluedes]

side comment ko.

I am still balance with buy vs build. Banks for example cannot afford to risk open source. They have big revenue revenue stream and can afford these tools. If an environment/product is having a problem at least there's a vendor to escalate and that's part of Service Level Agreement (SLA).

re: windows 7 is worth. it makes my 3.5 years laptop newer again. I decided not to buy new laptop. So saving lots of money.

yeah.. hinay2x lng jud tawn ang penetration sa open source..
pero some large corporations are adopting it for in-house development..

like i've known that IBM contracts with Sony for linux-based laptops for Sony's in-house development instead of using windows for it..

[uchihacirxe]

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