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  1. #161

    gitagaan na takag example usbon nako ha: sa nahitabo sa maguindanao nga ang nagpapatay ang mga ampatuan's, apilon diay nimo ang presidente sa pagpatay?
    common sense uy. ngano apilon man nimo ang presidente intawn?

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    gituman mu lang... puerting tumana. basa lagi history.
    aw gituman diay? edi dili lagi sila Kristiano kay nagpataka lang ug tuman sa sugo nga dili para sa ila...

    hurot as in wa gyuy nahabilin? mostly sa mga heretics gihurot ug patay gi apil paman gani ilang properties. ang mga witches gipangpatay. kung mahibaw-an ka nga witch, way duha-duha patyon ka. ngano naabot man pud kag muslim? kng muslim lang, na conquer sa katoliko ang muslim atong unang panahon.
    gipatay lagi nila so dili lagi sila Kristiano kay ila man kahang gipangpatay...mao bitaw dili ko mutuo nga Kristiano nang ilang iglesia tungod sa ilang gibuhat...


    daghan likoy oi... so kinsa gasugo ni Moses? wala gasugo niya nga isulti to? so pasabot himo-himo ra diay tong Moses? pagka toytoy gyud aning Moses sah... liman ka hasta mga FALSE PROPHETS ipaapil gud patay... kung karon pa to nabuhi si Moses, basin gi LETHAL INJECTION nana si MOSES. hahahah!
    dili to himo himo ni Moses oi naay gasugo niya...kinsa lagi ang pagtuo nimo ang gasugo ato ni Moses? ang Ginoo?

    ikaw say tubag para mahibaw an pud nako ang imong tubag kung kinsa...

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    common sense uy. ngano apilon man nimo ang presidente intawn?
    ahhh...salamat ha gamiton ni nako imong logic...so nganong pasanginlan man nimo ang Ginoo nga dili man ang Ginoo ang nagsugo ato kang Moses? ang pagtuo diay nimo ang Ginoo?

    mao na diha ron...

  4. #164
    ^^hahaha pareha man sad ning lalisa atong sauna oi. akoy nangutana ug una, gi bawsan pud ta'g pangutana. hahayz. uli sa ko Pein uy kay ting pamuhi na. times up nako diri. babush.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ahhh...salamat ha gamiton ni nako imong logic...so nganong pasanginlan man nimo ang Ginoo nga dili man ang Ginoo ang nagsugo ato kang Moses? ang pagtuo diay nimo ang Ginoo?

    mao na diha ron...
    aw ambot lang kaha, basin diay sayup ko. di man ko mu basa ug Bibliya gud. ok, cge granting nga sayup ko nga dili ang Ginoo, kani sincere ni nga pangutana ha:

    kinsa gasugo? si Jesus? si Mama Mary? mga anghel? or basin si Satanas?

    kana lang sa Pein. uli sa ko. baboooo...

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    aw ambot lang kaha, basin diay sayup ko. di man ko mu basa ug Bibliya gud. ok, cge granting nga sayup ko nga dili ang Ginoo, kani sincere ni nga pangutana ha:

    kinsa gasugo? si Jesus? si Mama Mary? mga anghel? or basin si Satanas?

    kana lang sa Pein. uli sa ko. baboooo...
    cge tubagon nalang nako oi kay basin muhilak naka...

    ang gasugo ato dili ang Ginoo kundi usa ka angel...

    Act 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

    angel ang kaistorya ug nagsugo ni Moses oi...ug para makahibaw ka, ang balaod ni Moses angels intawn ang namahala ato oi. mura bag Arroyo administration, administrasyon intawn to sa mga angels oi...

    Act 7:53 You, to whom the law was given as it was ordered by angels, and who have not kept it.

    so nganong apilon man nimo ang Ginoo nga dili man siya ang nagsugo ato angels man?

    timan i ni ha basin makalimot ka...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pein
    gitagaan na takag example usbon nako ha: sa nahitabo sa maguindanao nga ang nagpapatay ang mga ampatuan's, apilon diay nimo ang presidente sa nagpapatay?
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes
    common sense uy. ngano apilon man nimo ang presidente intawn?
    Last edited by Pein; 12-09-2009 at 05:59 AM.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    cge tubagon nalang nako oi kay basin muhilak naka...

    ang gasugo ato dili ang Ginoo kundi usa ka angel...

    Act 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

    angel ang kaistorya ug nagsugo ni Moses oi...ug para makahibaw ka, ang balaod ni Moses angels intawn ang namahala ato oi. mura bag Arroyo administration, administrasyon intawn to sa mga angels oi...

    Act 7:53 You, to whom the law was given as it was ordered by angels, and who have not kept it.

    so nganong apilon man nimo ang Ginoo nga dili man siya ang nagsugo ato angels man?

    timan i ni ha basin makalimot ka...
    ahhh... so mga angels diay gasugo ato. salamat sa pag tubag Pein ha.

    so ang mga angels diay namahala ato kang Moses ug gasugo ni Moses nga ipapatay. kinsa gani nag create sa mga angels Pein? ako na lang tubag ha, diara ay... basa:

    For by him [Jesus] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. (Col 1:16 )

    dia pa gyud:

    God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS. (2 Th 1:6,7)

    ...ug unsa gani tong SUGO sa verse Pein? ipa unsa gani to ang mga mu likoy sa Ginoo? o Pein, IPAPATAY ug IPASUNOG. salbahisa diay aning mga ANGHELA sah??

    hahaha
    Last edited by chad_tukes; 12-09-2009 at 07:09 AM.

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    ahhh... so mga angels diay gasugo ato. salamat sa pag tubag Pein ha.

    so ang mga angels diay namahala ato kang Moses ug gasugo ni Moses nga ipapatay. kinsa gani nag create sa mga angels Pein? ako na lang tubag ha, diara ay... basa:

    For by him [Jesus] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. (Col 1:16 )

    dia pa gyud:

    God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS. (2 Th 1:6,7)

    ...ug unsa gani tong SUGO sa verse Pein? ipa unsa gani to ang mga mu likoy sa Ginoo? o Pein, IPAPATAY ug IPASUNOG. salbahisa diay aning mga ANGHELA sah??

    hahaha
    kinsa ang nag create sa mga angels? ang Ginoo. ngano man diay kung siya ang nag create imo na diay siyang idamay nga ang mga angels man ang namahala sa panahon ni Moses?

    ug unsa gani tong SUGO sa verse Pein? ipa unsa gani to ang mga mu likoy sa Ginoo? o Pein, IPAPATAY ug IPASUNOG. salbahisa diay aning mga ANGHELA sah??
    honestly speaking, makaingon jud ko nga grabe ka ruthless ang balaod ni Moses nga gipamahalaan sa mga angels. mao bitaw giusab ang balaod. ang balaod na nga sundon karon ang balaod ni Cristo dili na kang Moses.

    Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

    Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

    Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

    Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

    Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


    ug dili ka maluwas kung ang sundon nimong balaod ang kang Moses.

    Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

    see? nagtuo diay ka nga balaod gihapon ni Moses ang among gisunod karon? sa nahitabo nga inquistion, sala na sa Katoliko kay mga ignorante sila wala sila kahibalo kung unsay sundon nga balaod nagpasabot lang jud nga dili jud lagi sila mga Cristiano.

    toytoy baya nimo...

    and by the way, tutol ka ug death penalty? diba sa US mao mana ang maximum penalty sa usa ka criminal? sa imong opinion, angay bang ma death penalty ang nagsugo sa pagpatay sa maguindanao massacre or dili?

    hmmmm...
    Last edited by Pein; 12-10-2009 at 05:58 AM.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by pein
    honestly speaking, makaingon jud ko nga grabe ka ruthless ang balaod ni Moses nga gipamahalaan sa mga angels. mao bitaw giusab ang balaod. ang balaod na nga sundon karon ang balaod ni Cristo dili na kang Moses.
    correction...it was not Moses' law according from the pages of the bible God created those laws.

    Jesus said: I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill them. don't make excuses!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pein
    ]Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

    Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

    Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

    Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

    Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
    Quote Originally Posted by pein

    ug dili ka maluwas kung ang sundon nimong balaod ang kang Moses.

    Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

    see? nagtuo diay ka nga balaod gihapon ni Moses ang among gisunod karon? sa nahitabo nga inquistion, sala na sa Katoliko kay mga ignorante sila wala sila kahibalo kung unsay sundon nga balaod nagpasabot lang jud nga dili jud lagi sila mga Cristiano.

    toytoy baya nimo...

    and by the way, tutol ka ug death penalty? diba sa US mao mana ang maximum penalty sa usa ka criminal? sa imong opinion, angay bang ma death penalty ang nagsugo sa pagpatay sa maguindanao massacre or dili?

    hmmmm...
    those verses are not from Jesus, it was written by a mysterious author. by the way the point is not w/c law is ruthless or not but your God committed those ruthless crimes. Is he not the same god in the new testament? yes He is.




  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung.2 View Post
    correction...it was not Moses' law according from the pages of the bible God created those laws.

    Jesus said: I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill them. don't make excuses!!!
    Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    unsa ni nga law nga i fulfil ni Jesus? kang Moses? gi fulfill ni Jesus ang law ni Moses? wala man gani siya musunod sa sabbath day...

    Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.


    toinks! tuga tuga...


    those verses are not from Jesus, it was written by a mysterious author. by the way the point is not w/c law is ruthless or not but your God committed those ruthless crimes. Is he not the same god in the new testament? yes He is.

    si St. Paul ang nagsuwat ana oi wala diay ka kahibaw?

    taka taka napud ai...subaya usa ang giistoryahan namo diri oi pataka raman intawn ka ug putak putak diha oi...
    Last edited by Pein; 12-10-2009 at 06:28 AM.

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