Tinuod ba may porgatoryo?

[dartzed]

Luther is one of the morning of the reformation...before Luther was converted he said to the rome "I salute you!"....But when the years go by the errors of rome is clearly seen the indulgences,the pilate's stair case,the image worship,the certification of pardon by tetzel,the purgatory....These errors cause a great conflict between Luther and Rome..Luther said "That if there is a hell,Rome is built over it..."...Luther also believes that there is a hell...Luther had published his German translation of the New Testament in 1522...Luther also believes that there is hell there are 54 verses that decribes or interprets the hell...The start of reformation includes the justification by faith,Breach with the papacy,And the excommunication...I can say that purgatory is one of a negosyo because there is no evidence in the Scripture...

unsa may nakanegosyo bro kung walay kwarta nga gipangayo ang simbahan?..
based sa ako mga nakastorya dre puro ra cla accusations but wala cla kbaw sa tinuod..

naay 2 kaklase sa tao ang pataka storya nga walay alamag ug ang naghilum2 ra pero daghan nahibaw.an..hehe

ikaw kasuway sad ka ug pamisa sa RC nga simbahan or parehas ra japon ka nila pataka storya?..hehe

[regnauld]

Luther is one of the morning of the reformation...before Luther was converted he said to the rome "I salute you!"....But when the years go by the errors of rome is clearly seen the indulgences,the pilate's stair case,the image worship,the certification of pardon by tetzel,the purgatory....These errors cause a great conflict between Luther and Rome..Luther said "That if there is a hell,Rome is built over it..."...Luther also believes that there is a hell...Luther had published his German translation of the New Testament in 1522...Luther also believes that there is hell there are 54 verses that decribes or interprets the hell...The start of reformation includes the justification by faith,Breach with the papacy,And the excommunication...I can say that purgatory is one of a negosyo because there is no evidence in the Scripture...

This is more accurate and reliable because there is a basis why Luther revolted against the RCC!

The belief of hell is just a belief but not necessarily true of course!

[dartzed]

Still your answer does not solve the problem.

Here's my premise: GOD IS IFINITE LOVE AND MERCY.

My question: If GOD is infinite Love and Mercy, how can a person be condemned by GOD if GOD is INFINITE LOVE and MERCY? Dont go to Lucifer because that is a myth and another issue for you to solve.

Now use your CRITICAL THINKING!

and God also give man FREE WILL, i guess kasabot sad ka ana..

thats easy enough for you to solve also..

and use your CRITICAL THINKING sad..

[regnauld]

and God also give man FREE WILL, i guess kasabot sad ka ana..

thats easy enough for you to solve also..

and use your CRITICAL THINKING sad..

So what if naay FREEWILL? Does that mean FREEWILL can overcome THE INFINITE LOVE OF GOD? Are you saying God gave man freewill so that man can choose to go to hell? hahahaha

Remember this: If one soul goes to hell (if hell exists) then the Creator who is INFINITE LOVE AND MERCY is defeated and therefore not GOD at all and doesn't deserve to be called an INFINITE LOVING GOD!

Your GOD is limited and therefore, doesnt care at all if one soul goes to hell (if hell exists)

[dartzed]

So what if naay FREEWILL? Does that mean FREEWILL can overcome THE INFINITE LOVE OF GOD? Are you saying God gave man freewill so that man can choose to go to hell? hahahaha

hmmmmm one sided theory huh.. do you wana go to hell if it does exist?.. y dont you make a survey here for you to know if man do want to go to hell.. take ur time coz i can wait just tell me whenever you have the results..

Remember this: If one soul goes to hell (if hell exists) then the Creator who is INFINITE LOVE AND MERCY is defeated and therefore not GOD at all and doesn't deserve to be called an INFINITE LOVING GOD!

how can you prove it to me if one soul might fall to hell God will be defeated.. give me proof on this claim..

Your GOD is limited and therefore, doesn't care at all if one soul goes to hell (if hell exists)

how can one be limited if one is free from such burden?..


i think we have a poet here..hehe

[regnauld]

hmmmmm one sided theory huh.. do you wana go to hell if it does exist?.. y dont you make a survey here for you to know if man do want to go to hell.. take ur time coz i can wait just tell me whenever you have the results..



how can you prove it to me if one soul might fall to hell God will be defeated.. give me proof on this claim..



how can one be limited if one is free from such burden?..


i think we have a poet here..hehe

Still it does not make sense at all.

Do you really realize how powerful the words INFINITE LOVE Of GOD and you are saying man can go to hell because of FREEWILL? hahaha....

if GOD gave man freewill and GOD know that there will be souls who will go to hell, then where is now the power of GOD to stop man from going to hell and besides what is HELL compared to just even a lifetime? lets say you are given 100 years old and you go to hell for eternity....di ba that is very UNJUST KIND of OF PUNISHMENT BY GOD? Do you think that is fair punishement by going to HELL which is eternal compared only for 100 years old you had on earth? what a brilliant LOGIC you have!

You want proof that GOD is defeated? Do you think SIN CAN OVERCOME THE LOVE OF GOD?

One of my proof is in the bible: God created man in his own image and likeness. Therefore, if man goes to hell...GOD's image goes to hell too and that is a great contradiction, isnt it? what do you think sir?

[dartzed]

Still it does not make sense at all.

Do you really realize how powerful the words INFINITE LOVE Of GOD and you are saying man can go to hell because of FREEWILL? hahaha....

if GOD gave man freewill and GOD know that there will be souls who will go to hell, then where is now the power of GOD to stop man from going to hell and besides what is HELL compared to just even a lifetime? lets say you are given 100 years old and you go to hell for eternity....di ba that is very UNJUST KIND of OF PUNISHMENT BY GOD? Do you think that is fair punishement by going to HELL which is eternal compared only for 100 years old you had on earth? what a brilliant LOGIC you have!

You want proof that GOD is defeated? Do you think SIN CAN OVERCOME THE LOVE OF GOD?

One of my proof is in the bible: God created man in his own image and likeness. Therefore, if man goes to hell...GOD's image goes to hell too and that is a great contradiction, isnt it? what do you think sir?

ah okies quite interesting indeed..

haven't you read in the bible yet?..

"But you are not in the flesh, but the spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God
dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his"

hmmmmmmmm

[regnauld]

ah okies quite interesting indeed..

haven't you read in the bible yet?..

"But you are not in the flesh, but the spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God
dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his"

hmmmmmmmm

So where is now your concept of hell there? whats the connection and your point?

[dartzed]

So where is now your concept of hell there? whats the connection and your point?

where do you think those guys who are not of God found?.. im sure you have read it if you did..

[rclong_rey]

Luther is one of the morning of the reformation...before Luther was converted he said to the rome "I salute you!"....But when the years go by the errors of rome is clearly seen the indulgences,the pilate's stair case,the image worship,the certification of pardon by tetzel,the purgatory....These errors cause a great conflict between Luther and Rome..Luther said "That if there is a hell,Rome is built over it..."...Luther also believes that there is a hell...Luther had published his German translation of the New Testament in 1522...Luther also believes that there is hell there are 54 verses that decribes or interprets the hell...The start of reformation includes the justification by faith,Breach with the papacy,And the excommunication...I can say that purgatory is one of a negosyo because there is no evidence in the Scripture...

Then your church was founded by Luther not by Christ Himself..
is Luther has the authority given by Christ to create another church or religion apart from the original founded by Christ by giving Saint Peter the Supreme authority?...maybe you already read the verse that Christ was giving Saint Peter His full authority..
is Luther Holy?
where can we find in the Bible that Jesus Christ telling that He founded churches or religions?
only one church Jesus Christ founded... only pride of Luther makes him separate and revoult..

(I can say that purgatory is one of a negosyo because there is no evidence in the Scripture...[/quote])-->>then luther also is negosyante ky la man sad siyay proof nga ikapakita nga na siyay authority nga mag tukod lain religion...nya la man sad tay mabasa sa Bible nga naay luther didto gihisgutan....