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  1. #1001

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ang punto ana nga verse is naay makasulod sa langit bisan sinner...



    pareho ra nang langit ug paraiso oi niingon diay ko nga lahi na sila? tsk tsk tsk!
    dba niingon ka nga wala ka musulti ug paraiso kundi langit?.. so asa nakasulod d i tong kawatan sa langit daun bsan wala niagi sa kamot sa ginuo bro?..

    parehas nsad ang langit ug ang paraiso b4 d cya mudawat sa paraiso kay wala cya nagtell daw kay langit ra..ahahaha
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-02-2009 at 02:06 PM.

  2. #1002

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    wala ka nakabasa sa akong gi mean? repost lang nako ha...



    tawo ang akong buot ipasabot ana nga post oi...pero giapil man diay nimo si satanas sa sinner noh? aw sige...oo nakasulod man sa langit si satanas...

    Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    dis a ra gani nahitabo ang gubat? hmmmmm....
    NOTE: ato gistoryaan purgatoryo/kamot sa ginuo!..

    unsa d i naa sa purgatoryo bro or kana sa inyo kamot sa ginuo ang demonyo ba gud?..

    usa pa ang ato gistoryaan ang pagluwas sa kalag deli ni satanas kasabot ka?.. paluma2x mo ug differentiate sa makasasala ug dautan sa una krn ang sinner imo na gipamarehas sa demonyo..pagsure mo oi..

    NAUNSA NMAN TAWN KA OI..

    pls give me a verse nga naay sinner nakasulod sa langit deli kanang DAUTAN/DEMONYO matod pa nimo..
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-02-2009 at 02:10 PM.

  3. #1003

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    aw manluluwas diay si Jesus Christ? unya unsa may luwason ni Jesus Christ sa tawo?

    toinks! ang kamot diay sa Ginoo mao ang kamot ni Jesus Christ? layua na nimo oi...hahahaha!

    pero sige nalang tubagon lang gihapon na nako ang imong pangutana. si Jesus Christ ang makalimpyo sa atong sala pinaagi sa iyang kamatayon.

    1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    ang naglimpyo diay sa atong sala is ang dugo ni Cristo noh? kay unsa man diay naa anang dugo?

    Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

    so ang dugo diay ni Cristo ang makalimpyo sa sala noh dili diay purgatoryo...hahahaha!



    oi nagbutang pa ug NOTE...mali daw kung wala sa Bible...unya wala man sa Bible nang purgatory sa ato pa mali diay na....hahahaha!

    asa man sa bible ang purgatory beh? i quote lang ni nako ang imong giingon:


    hahahaha!
    lols inyo mana stand sa amo deli man nkalimot nka ka?..

    ok si jesus christ unya?.. niana man mo nga wala pay nahalangit hangtod krn dba, pero niana ka naas kamot sa ginuo ang mga kalag which is ang ginuo naa sad sa langit?..

    unsa man d i nang kamot as ginuo lugar or parte sa iya lawas?..

    but 1st tagae kog verse nga naay sinner(kalag deli demonyo kay deli na maoy luwason) nga nakasulod nas langit.. based sa imo claim nga ang kalag sa tao naas kamot sa ginuo unya ang ginuo naa sa langit..

    basta wala sa bible MALI hap?..hehehe
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-02-2009 at 04:46 PM.

  4. #1004

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    If there is a GOD who is ABSOLUTE and INFINITE LOVE, then why did GOD create HELL? Thats a great contradiction which your scholars and doctors of the church haven't answered correctly so far!
    based on what i have read in the scriptures..

    God did not made Hell but Lucifer.. where in the scripture did you read that God made Hell?.. would you mind sharing them to me my friend?..
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-02-2009 at 02:12 PM.

  5. #1005

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    based on what i have read in the scriptures..

    God did not made Hell but Lucifer.. where in the scripture did you read that God made Hell?.. would you mind sharing them to me my friend?..
    So, who created LUCIFER?

    If someone goes to hell, then THE INFINITE LOVE of GOD is really a great contradiction for how can GOD allow someone be damned for eternity when GOD is INFINITE LOVE and MERCY? You understand my point?

  6. #1006

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    So, who created LUCIFER?

    If someone goes to hell, then THE INFINITE LOVE of GOD is really a great contradiction for how can GOD allow someone be damned for eternity when GOD is INFINITE LOVE and MERCY? You understand my point?
    oh okies if man did something:

    if man made the computer, then who made man?.. ------- God made the computer;

    if man killed a man, who made man?.. ------- God killed the man;

    if man kill himself, who made man?.. ------- God killed the man himself;

    if man sinned, who made man?.. ------- God is also a sinner;

    hmmmmmmm correct me if im wrong though...

    you're logic quite captured my interests, so let me hear your plea..
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-02-2009 at 04:53 PM.

  7. #1007

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    So, who created LUCIFER?

    If someone goes to hell, then THE INFINITE LOVE of GOD is really a great contradiction for how can GOD allow someone be damned for eternity when GOD is INFINITE LOVE and MERCY? You understand my point?
    it's because God made this world a DEMOCRATIC world... he's not a dictator. he who wants to do bad, let him do bad..

  8. #1008

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmm are you indirectly saying that Luther does not believe in hell then for you to say binata or negosyo ra?..

    Luther is one of the morning of the reformation...before Luther was converted he said to the rome "I salute you!"....But when the years go by the errors of rome is clearly seen the indulgences,the pilate's stair case,the image worship,the certification of pardon by tetzel,the purgatory....These errors cause a great conflict between Luther and Rome..Luther said "That if there is a hell,Rome is built over it..."...Luther also believes that there is a hell...Luther had published his German translation of the New Testament in 1522...Luther also believes that there is hell there are 54 verses that decribes or interprets the hell...The start of reformation includes the justification by faith,Breach with the papacy,And the excommunication...I can say that purgatory is one of a negosyo because there is no evidence in the Scripture...

  9. #1009

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmhiong View Post
    it's because God made this world a DEMOCRATIC world... he's not a dictator. he who wants to do bad, let him do bad..
    Does that answer the question about Gods Infinite Love and Mercy.

    What is bad? how do you qualify a bad action?

  10. #1010

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    oh okies if man did something:

    if man made the computer, then who made man?.. ------- God made the computer;

    if man killed a man, who made man?.. ------- God killed the man;

    if man kill himself, who made man?.. ------- God killed the man himself;

    if man sinned, who made man?.. ------- God is also a sinner;

    hmmmmmmm correct me if im wrong though...

    you're logic quite captured my interests, so let me hear your plea..
    Still your answer does not solve the problem.

    Here's my premise: GOD IS IFINITE LOVE AND MERCY.

    My question: If GOD is infinite Love and Mercy, how can a person be condemned by GOD if GOD is INFINITE LOVE and MERCY? Dont go to Lucifer because that is a myth and another issue for you to solve.

    Now use your CRITICAL THINKING!

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