One Cebu Party - Objective is for all the Garcias will be Positioned in Cebu Politics

[gikapoy]

that's funny because one book already detailed the bossism and corruption of the Osmenas...and Cebu is already been known for that.

gatuo diay ka nga "greatness" ra ang ma describe nimo sa mga Osmena? where have u been?

hehehe
kinsa writter sir?
hayahay jud ning naa mga allies nga journalist or writters

[mlhl@7]

that's funny because one book already detailed the bossism and corruption of the Osmenas...and Cebu is already been known for that.

gatuo diay ka nga "greatness" ra ang ma describe nimo sa mga Osmena? where have u been?

Here we go again!!

Most of the Osmena did greatness to Cebu compare to Garcia's.. Unsaon nalang ni si Winston, Gwen, Byran, Pablo ug Pabling nga puros publicity raman ni ila.

[giddyboy]

Here we go again!!

Most of the Osmena did greatness to Cebu compare to Garcia's.. Unsaon nalang ni si Winston, Gwen, Byran, Pablo ug Pabling nga puros publicity raman ni ila.

well, the Osmenas, just like the Duranos have political roots already even before the time your lolo was born. The Garcias are just new to the political arena. So to compare their accomplishments to those clans nga nangaraan na sa politika is somewhat unjustifiable. That is just like comparing an old tree to a seedling.

I think it was first started w/ Pablo Sr. when he won as Cebu Vice Guv in 1969-1971, Congressman from 1987 to 1995 and as Cebu Governor in 1995.

His nephew Alvin Garcia (son of his late elder brother Jesus Garcia Sr., Sun.Star publisher), a non-politician, was handpicked by Tomas Osmeña to be his running mate in 1988. Alvin was vice mayor for two terms until 1995. He was elected mayor for two terms from 1995 to 2001.

In 1992, a few years before Pablo won as guv, Jesus Sr's son, Sonny Garcia Jr., was appointed DOTC undersecretary by Ramos. Both Ramos and Sonny were very instrumental in dismantling the monopolies of the telecom and airline industry. Do u still remember before that it took almost forever to get a PLDT phoneline, the only phone company operating in the Phils that time? nya mahal pa gyud? well, all that changed during Ramos time including the proliferation of the most useful communication gadget of today: THE CELLPHONE. Do u also remember that the only airline flying in the Phils was PAL? that also changed during Ramos time. Do u remember also that we used to ride old and dilapidated taxis? all that changed during Ramos term.

Winston Garcia, one of Pabling’s sons, was Cebu provincial board member from 1992 to 1995 and became top honcho of the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS).

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"HOW THE Garcias have come into their own to rival the Osmeñas’ political influence is a neat lesson in contemporary politics, as they belong to what Mojares regards as an interesting segment of political leaders in the province: “middle-level both in terms of wealth and political position, often professions-based, whose appeal draws from their being well educated, successful lawyers, managers, etc.” Not rooted in landed elite families, these upwardly mobile “professional politicians,” as Sidel refers to them, are successfully replacing the scions of these traditional landowning families mainly through the construction of political machines."

"They don’t have a significant power base of their own compared to kingpins like the Osmeñas and the earlier Cuenco and Durano families,” explains Mojares. “They are positioned as junior allies or, you might say, consiglieris of such dominant figures as Marcos (as in the case of Gullas) or the Osmeñas — a connection that facilitates their advancement to positions where they can begin or are able to break away and challenge their patrons.”

source: PCIJ, Power shift looms in Cebu politics
by Alecks P. Pabico

[giddyboy]

hehehe
kinsa writter sir?
hayahay jud ning naa mga allies nga journalist or writters

The author of that book is John T. Sidel. His book is titled: Capital, Coercion, and Crime:
Bossism in the Philippines

Prof. John T. Sidel is a British writer. He is the Sir Patrick Gillam Professor of International and Comparative Politics at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE). Before taking up this post at the LSE in 2004, Professor Sidel taught for ten years at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London. He received his BA and MA from Yale University (198 and his PhD from Cornell University (1995).

Prof. Sidel specializes in the study of Southeast Asia and has three main areas of thematic expertise and interest in the study of politics, as reflected in his research, writing, and teaching.

Professor Sidel is a member of the editorial board of the journal South East Asia Research and the co-editor of the Contemporary Issues in the Asia Pacific book series at Stanford University Press.

Professor Sidel has published a number of books, journal articles, reports and essays in edited volumes:

The Islamist Threat in Southeast Asia: A Reassessment

Riots, Pogroms, Jihad: Religious Violence in Indonesia

Philippine Politics and Society in the Twentieth Century

hey! he might even write a book someday about the clan wars in Mindanao, a perfect example the recent massacre in Ampatuan.

Sidel treats the Osmeña case as one extreme of bossism, locating it at the furthest end of the spectrum that begins with the Cavite case. The Osmeñas are not prone to use violence, relying instead on technomedia and propaganda to build their reputations and advance their political agendas.

[raski]

Giddyboy I'm not sure most Cebuanos would care if all the Garcias are massacred. I doubt there will be any outrage at all whatsoever. Basig mag-party pa gali mi diri. Mopalit gyud ko lechon kung marak-rakan na silang tanan. I don't wish it on them, but if it happens, I honestly wouldn't shed a tear and neither would most Cebuanos.

[giddyboy]

Giddyboy I'm not sure most Cebuanos would care if all the Garcias are massacred. I doubt there will be any outrage at all whatsoever. Basig mag-party pa gali mi diri. Mopalit gyud ko lechon kung marak-rakan na silang tanan. I don't wish it on them, but if it happens, I honestly wouldn't shed a tear and neither would most Cebuanos.

dili ta mag ing ana oi. please don't speak bad words...masuko ang Lord ana.

dili tanan Sugbuhanon parehas nimog utok...

[personalmgt]

/giddyboy - I just noticed your errr fanboyism towards the Garcias. No offense, pero unsa man ang nabuhat sa mga Garcia na wala mabuhat sa Osmeña? Because in my own perception, the Osmeñas did a lot of things to improve Cebu.

[giddyboy]

/giddyboy - I just noticed your errr fanboyism towards the Garcias. No offense, pero unsa man ang nabuhat sa mga Garcia na wala mabuhat sa Osmeña? Because in my own perception, the Osmeñas did a lot of things to improve Cebu.

well, op kors the Osmenas did a lot of things to improve Cebu. Grabeh naman pud sa kadugay nila sa Cebu politics, di ba? There are also things that the Garcias did to improve Cebu.

Just like I said, comparing the Osmenas to the Garcias is just like comparing an old tree to a seedling.

As of now, I can only say wala pay mkatupong sa nabuhat sa mga Osmena diri sa Cebu. That's a fact. Also, power shift looms in Cebu. Cebu used to be the heart of Osmeña country, the home of a political clan that at one time even managed to wield power from within Malacañang. But in the last two decades, a new family has been gaining considerable political ground in Cebu province: The Garcias. That's a fact even said by political observers like Dr. Resil Mojares. But I still think the Osmeñas remain the most dominant family in Cebu. But it would be interesting to see how far the Garcias will go.

I am banking my opinions also from books and historical and current facts u know. That's not fanboyism.

don't get me wrong, there are aspects that I like and dislike from the Osmenas, just as there are aspects that I like and dislike from the Garcias.

besides, this topic is about the Garcias. who else am I gonna talk about here diay, Ampatuan? hehe

I am just sharing my opinion and some facts here about these people.

[personalmgt]

There are also things that the Garcias did to improve Cebu.

Like what exactly? Most of the best things in Cebu that I enjoy right now mostly came from the Osmeñas. I was born in 1990, so please pardon me if I missed something that the Garcias did. Because the last time I checked, my Araling Panlipunan didn't tell me anything about what the Garcias did.

Most projects I see right now on what the Garcias are doing kay mostly palpak. Also, I'm not asking you to compare them. Please be wary that this question is not an insult of your intelligence. You can call me a fanboy of the Osmeña's pud if you want but I won't care. But either way, I'm just asking

[yacky2006]

Ako lang pangutana ani.

1. Nganong halos tanan naman Garcia mo dagan sa lain2x local position sa uma-abot nga piniliay? (dako kaayo clag magasto ani, asa man clag kuwarta)

2. Nganong dili man sila mo dagan ug national position?

Gusto gyud nila tingali ut-uton ang Sugbu.