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  1. #221

    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    So what if Villar used his political power to manipulate the C-5 extension road. Big deal! At least Villar has a brain of his own....

    UNLIKE... who? Noynoy "Puppet" Aquino and Mar "Dollface" Roxas.

    They have nothing to give but a star-studded left and right endorsement....

    ARTISTA NA PUD TA ANI mao ni political value nato.... IHAS OG ARTISTA??
    Yes its a big deal kay nagpakita na kung c villar naa ba integrity o wala, unya selfless public service ba iyaha o naa personal/business interest. Isa pa, asa man iya delicadeza sa iya gibuhat??
    Dili lang C5, golden haven memorial park sa binaliw, talamban. Naay pattern, I believe naa pa uban niya business project mao gihapon ang iya style, mogamit sa iya political position aron makapabor iya negosyo.
    Mao na factual, dili na haka2x, "basin, "murag", assumptions, etc.
    Kana uban nimo giistorya, puppet, etc..., dili na factual but assumptions.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by roderick_m View Post
    Yes its a big deal kay nagpakita na kung c villar naa ba integrity o wala, unya selfless public service ba iyaha o naa personal/business interest. Isa pa, asa man iya delicadeza sa iya gibuhat??
    Dili lang C5, golden haven memorial park sa binaliw, talamban. Naay pattern, I believe naa pa uban niya business project mao gihapon ang iya style, mogamit sa iya political position aron makapabor iya negosyo.
    Mao na factual, dili na haka2x, "basin, "murag", assumptions, etc.
    Kana uban nimo giistorya, puppet, etc..., dili na factual but assumptions.
    So you mean ang gibasura nga kaso sa C5 mas bug-at pa sa evident killing/massacre sa Hacienda Luisita when you talked of delicadeza?
    Did the Cojuangcos not use their political influence over the Massacre case?

    Facts:
    C-5 road scandal saradong kabanata na – Villar -
    The Arkikbong Bayan Hacienda Luisita Massacre archived webpages

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by haiasi View Post
    So you mean ang gibasura nga kaso sa C5 mas bug-at pa sa evident killing/massacre sa Hacienda Luisita when you talked of delicadeza?
    Did the Cojuangcos not use their political influence over the Massacre case?

    Facts:
    C-5 road scandal saradong kabanata na – Villar -
    The Arkikbong Bayan Hacienda Luisita Massacre archived webpages
    Hahaha. From your last sentence alone "did the cojuangcos not use their political influence over the massacre case?", wala ka ka-deretso ug ingon "did noynoy use his political influence over the hacienda luisita case?".
    Its villar's "influence-peddling issue" imo gi-compare sa hacienda luisita issue.
    Una, its hacienda luisita not hacienda noynoy, what Im implying nga dili ka noynoy ra masunod nga decision if ever, but collective decision sa tanan stockholders, as its a stock-based corporation.

    But for the sake of your argument, granting "migamit c noynoy sa iya political position" sa hacienda luisita issue, how come walay investigation sa senate, house of representatives, CHR or any investigating body, unlike sa C5 issue nga naa investigation. So many great lawyers, economist, etc.. sa both chambers, naa pa human rights defenders, may it be pro or anti noynoy, why man wala nila giimbistigar c noynoy if nakakita cla probable cause to investigate nga gigamit ni noynoy iya political position to gain favor sa hacienda luisita issue??
    Ang question ana imo giingon nga massacre, who influenced who, who provoked who??

    But as i said, imo last sentence, mihisgot ka like "cojuangcos migamit ug political influence" as you alleged and not directly noynoy.
    Ang point walay makahatag or makaderetso storya nga gigamit ni noynoy iya political position para makapabor sa hacienda luisita issue.

    Dako kalahian sa C5, or any other Villar's business projects ni villar in which klaro kaayo nga involved directly c villar, be it thru his business company and/or thru his political position, whichever way, ma-involved pirmi directly c villar mismo.

  4. #224
    Diha makita ang kalahian sa ila integrity ug delicadeza with regards to "influence-peddling" gamit ila political position.
    For that basis and pattern alone, mas mobotar pa cguro ko sa uban presidentiables, but never to villar.

  5. #225
    Pact with KBL revealed vintage Villar

    SENATOR MANUEL VILLAR finally shed off the last veil that hides his true identity. The alliance entered into by and between the Nacionalista Party and the Kilusang Bagong Lipunan is not surprising. The two parties are very much like long-lost, separated siblings. President Marcos won the presidency under the NP banner, then proceeded to establish the KBL after he succeeded in obliterating the opposition at the height of his power.

    For Senator Villar, the presidency is just another business venture. He is intelligent enough to know that people are not jumping into his party because of his or the NP’s principles but because of his money. He certainly fears that a failure in his run would be his ruin, so there is no better strategy than to coalesce with another well-oiled machinery which is the KBL. And the fact that the so-called “cause-oriented groups” took their own sweet time to decide whether to stick to the coalition or not is really not surprising because the people behind them really do not want honest governance which would render them irrelevant. The groups thrive when there is chaos.

    The 2010 elections is the last chance for our democracy. I call on all the people to be more discerning.

    —VALENTIN L. BONITE,

    Gigaquit, Surigao del Norte

  6. #226
    tanawa ra...paka uwaw lang jud ang gi buhat sa LP ila gi tago-an c Noynoy wah nila patungha-a sa presidential forum sa channel 7. ila taktika mura man hinoon FPJ mo likay sa mga televised intelligent discussion. Aquino raba unta iya family name pero nagpa kauwaw sa iyang gubuhat karon lang....tsk...tsk...

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    now that Chiz isn't around I'd best choose a lesser evil. Ok lang C-5... at least naay utok...

    Aquino-Roxas tuta (itoy2x) lang na... way kaugalingong decision... wa pa jud na pasar nga balaud... paka ulaw lang..
    ako sad... chiz unta to.. maayo na lang ni kay basin makahatag ug umployment sa mga filipino...

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by roderick_m View Post
    Yes its a big deal kay nagpakita na kung c villar naa ba integrity o wala, unya selfless public service ba iyaha o naa personal/business interest. Isa pa, asa man iya delicadeza sa iya gibuhat??
    Dili lang C5, golden haven memorial park sa binaliw, talamban. Naay pattern, I believe naa pa uban niya business project mao gihapon ang iya style, mogamit sa iya political position aron makapabor iya negosyo.
    Mao na factual, dili na haka2x, "basin, "murag", assumptions, etc.
    Kana uban nimo giistorya, puppet, etc..., dili na factual but assumptions.
    nindot man sad kuno ang c-5 road... about sa iya negosyo.. well naa man sad competition angmga negosyo ni villar.. on the opther hand kay GMA obvious kaayo na gigamit iya postion pagbutang ug road dapit sa iya luta para mudaku nag presyo sa ila yuta.. hahahaha...

    maayo na kay pabahy man negosyo ni villar basin mubartao hin-on ang balay kay dagan na kaayo or pwede sad daghan siya kahinanglan na workers...

    may na lang na nay kaugalingon panigkamot wal nag atang sa biyaya ra gikan sa parents...

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    nindot man sad kuno ang c-5 road... about sa iya negosyo.. well naa man sad competition angmga negosyo ni villar.. on the opther hand kay GMA obvious kaayo na gigamit iya postion pagbutang ug road dapit sa iya luta para mudaku nag presyo sa ila yuta.. hahahaha...

    maayo na kay pabahy man negosyo ni villar basin mubartao hin-on ang balay kay dagan na kaayo or pwede sad daghan siya kahinanglan na workers...

    may na lang na nay kaugalingon panigkamot wal nag atang sa biyaya ra gikan sa parents...

    Hahahaha. Ka-kataw-anan. Imo ra na gipanindot ang storya pero wala na magtubag sa real issue "kkung migamit ba c villar sa iya political position para makapabor iya negosyo. Imo pa gisuway ug justify ang issue by comparing one wrong act to another wrong act.

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by roderick_m View Post
    Hahahaha. Ka-kataw-anan. Imo ra na gipanindot ang storya pero wala na magtubag sa real issue "kkung migamit ba c villar sa iya political position para makapabor iya negosyo. Imo pa gisuway ug justify ang issue by comparing one wrong act to another wrong act.
    sige ka panaway,pero hantod karon you are still too afraid to choose kung kinsa ang imo presidente... why not choose first ayaw sige pangtira sa amo villar.asa man gyud ka basin noynoy ka mauwaw lang ka mosulti.standy by your president... klaro raba kaayo ka na wala pa gyud ka ka-agi sa C-5,kay wa gyud ka kasabot sa imo gipang-yawit.

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