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  1. #9011

    Quote Originally Posted by dingo spike View Post
    @all GOOD MORNING GUYS!!!!

    I Echo both sir Eskeryon and Markykoi's view on the matter of the membership fee. I can't agree more that "money is indeed a very sensitive issue" That is why, when ACE started, we did not pursue the collection of any membership fees, since we are People with hearts that feels and emphatizes and ears that listens.

    I was jobless when I joined ACE, yet I and Smalltime_guppy were the ones that are very willing to Pay for the membership fee, since we are really happy with our experience as a member. The things that we learned, the nice, down to earth friends that we meet and the adventure when it comes to the trekking activities. Those things are "Priceless" if you ask me.

    But we have to face reality, in order for us to grow and endure, Our group needs funding. I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ASKING FOR A FEE but it is needed. But then again, we want to do things the proper way and as diplomatic as we can.

    The whole point of having a meeting this sunday, is to make sure that you guys are heard, that all your suggestions be funneled to the rest of the members. We can really discuss things if we wanted to, It will not be sir Eskeryon, Markykoi nor me who will make the decision, It will be ALL OF US.


    Dingo Spike
    a.k.a. Jojo Arellano
    " I AM ACE "




    --- Nature rewards the resourceful ---


    .
    ------i just scan the letter but i believe sir jo... pwede ko apil ugma bisag ala ko entry sa sm.. hahah! bitaw try lang nako or apas kay busy ko sa scouting sa mga bata ako man god president(responsibility)...asa d ai mag meting..?mizz u guyzz!

  2. #9012
    mu voice out pod ko bisan di ko active sa ACE na karon. the membership fee is ok raman as long as satisfied ka and your enjoying and the most important part is nakita nimu asa napunta ang kwarta diba dili lang ingun nga wa nka kibaw asa napunta, like marky,lyle,dingo,iyon said daghan napod grupo na bungkag tungod anang fundings kay ang uban abusado nya wlay claro mag kupot sa kwarta, but for me as long as kita judta asa mapunta ang fundings then it will be no probs, sakto pod ang uban e tago para sa future exhibit or shows also pod sa mga xmas party or other events. so mas mau jud if maka apil sa meeting kay didto jud na ma discuss ang benefits for being a member(ex. discounts,affiliates, knowledge you'll learn from the group, etc...) then dont judge sa dayon na dili worth it kay wa pa ta kibaw unsay gi pang taguan sa officers na perks maybe naay free nano tank ever monthly meeting( haha joke ra officers) and lastly wlay grupo nga nag sugod nga wa ni agi ug kalisud diba naa jud na pag una na naay probs but as the members mag ka solid then magka solid pod ang group.

    PS. ganahan kau ko mu apil sa inyo mga meetings and trekkings but sadly i can fid tiome since sunday is a family day jud para namu, patuo nlng judko ani ni tatay. i hope some mebers could understand but for sure marky and iyon did. hehe

    more power to ACE
    also TOAC(Team Overdrive Aquatics) is sending their regards and is always ready to extend tehir assistance even di pa pod mi registered. hehe

  3. #9013

    Thumbs up Am iN FULL-SUPPORT wHaTEvEr mA.cOmE-Up sAh ACE mEETiNg 2mRw...

    Quote Originally Posted by boomer887 View Post
    share nalng nako ako immerse nga nano 5gals.. way ayo scaping mao due for reset na ni...

    kung mahalin na ang hc ni lyle.. ako na unya ni e for sale ang hc... hahaha
    nAkO g.PM nEmU TaTa'y bOOmEr pArA d'Li mA.OT d'ri bAh....

    Quote Originally Posted by eskeryon View Post
    @Fishboi - pls kon makalugar ka palihug ug hapit ni Grim ug pahibaw-a nga naa ta meeting karon sunday sa Dunkin Donuts Fuente at 1:00 pm ug inform him nga naa trekking karon sunod sunday, Nov. 29, sa Taptap (Trans Central Highway)
    AkO TrY HapiT UnyA iG.ULi nAkO TaTa'y EskEryOn kAy SiLiNgAn rAh bAyA UnTa mEh bAh... dn AkO nAh zd g.TxTaN... sYaRo dUhA nAmi nEh mArkY nG.TxT bAh.... hEhEhE...

    Quote Originally Posted by markykoi View Post
    Good morning sa tanan.

    First of all let me tell you that I have created this organization for the love of our hobby, and for a common goal in preserving nature. A NON PROFIT organization that helps hobbyists sa hobby nga dili sila mag lisod, keeping them IN the hobby making everything cost effective, by sharing knowledge, tips and tricks on aquatic flora and fauna keeping. Nga dili gasto or mahal ang hobby and dili lisod pud. TINABANGAY is the key word.

    The organization is more than a year old, at first I was not planning to get any membership fee or anything that pertains to money since as what sir eskeryon had said, this is the MAIN REASON why organizations FAIL. Kanang dili magka sinabot ba. But in the long run, i have come to realize that the organization will NOT survive without funds too. These funds are not mine, these are yours. Para sa inyo pud ni. I completely understand that most of us here will have seconds thoughts about the membership fee, registration fee, etc. We will discuss the PERKS and "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME" on our meeting.

    I am not a good leader, but paningkamutan nako nga dili madiscourage ang mga taw sa ACE. Lingaw kaayo ni guys. To think of, kita ang usa sa mga pioneering club diri Cebu nga walay mother org sa Manila. We have started from scratch, kugihan kaayo ang mga members, mga gwapo ug gwapa pa jud (wa koy labot) hehehe. bitaw, let me help you guys by helping the organization. Pasalamat ko sa mga karaan sa ACE, kadtong mga first few members nga ni kugi jud. Salamat kaayo. You know who you are.
    Btw, abuloy or donations are not compulsory.

    Regarding about the website, sir zhero_id, hope you could attend the meeting. I need a legitimate admin for this.

    I would still suggest nga avoid lang ta offtopics diri and buy and sell should be on the buy and sell section lang. Our thread is the most active thread diri sa Pet Discussions, lisod na if ma infaction ta or unsa sa mods. Salamat kaayo sa inyong pag sabot. =)

    deadline will be announced during the meeting marky.

    Exactamento sir!
    Adunay transparency jud.
    WeLL TakEn mArkY.kOi... sUpPoRT jd kO sAh mGA ENDEAVORS sAh ACE....
    i kNw hOw diFFicULT 2 OrgAniZE ThiNg'Z... i'vE bEEn OrgAniZiNg a LoT oF ORGANiZATiOn'z 4 d' pAsT yEAr'Z & 8'z nOT Easy jd... mAo gUsTo kO AnE nAh ORG. kAy dZ TiMe ORDINARY MEMBER LnG kO... nOT TROUBLE'sOmE... mAo sUpPoRT kO nEmU mArky'kOi...
    mG.LisOd LnG kO ATTEND sAh MeeTiNg 2mRw bAh kAy WORK jd mEh... hUhUhU...
    Ad2 mEh CORDOVA 2 cOndUcT a SEMINDAR/WORKSHOP... TrY LnG nAkO ApAs...

  4. #9014
    murag di man jd ko k.attend sa meeting...pero kung unsa inyo ma sabutan, ok ra sad ko ana...kung naa registration...ok ra pd...hehehe...

  5. #9015
    @Prinsipe kenny. this is the link i was talking about. It makes use of the curly stuff you can find in your garden. 1 kilo per 50 liters.

    Earth worm casting for nutrient enriched sediments, how to - Aquarium Plants - Barr Report

    lasts as long as ada amazonia, if not longer. This also affords you a lot of flexibility in fertilization (or lack thereof). You can put some root tabs into the bottom if paranoid ka.

    The other one is How-To: Mineralized Soil Substrate, by Aaron Talbot - Library - Aquatic Plant Central

    instead of boiling, you can do the wet & dry cycle of your curly stuff.
    The boiling just speeds up the process to about an hour vs 1-2 weeks of drying & wetting.

    OR... you can go straight to using designer substrates unless you want those royal hands to become... ...tainted.


    @all ako gi up balik na topic kay naay nangutana, nalubong na man gud.
    Last edited by Soggy2; 11-21-2009 at 12:59 PM.

  6. #9016
    asa ta kapallit ug koi dire sa cebu na barato gamay pls help

  7. #9017
    Quote Originally Posted by GrifterHas View Post
    asa ta kapallit ug koi dire sa cebu na barato gamay pls help
    check lang sa buy and sell section.. naa ra man daghan namaligya dinha nga barato.

  8. #9018
    Quote Originally Posted by eskeryon View Post
    To all who are discussing money matters in relation to the ACE organization:
    This is a delicate matter to discuss with that is why it is not good to discuss it here for the meantime when everything is just a "hakahaka" lang. This issue must be resolve though a general membership meeting thus I am asking everybody to be there in the meeting as I am planning to have this in a resolution which must be approved by the majority and we are going to submit this to SEC. A lot of organization were dissolved because of money matters. Nang atras ang uban labi na kon idagan na sa nagdala sa kwarta. So we will see to it what ever transaction is made then it should be transparent and thus everybody can ask question as to the status of the organizational funds. So be there to clarify everything.
    hi guys, 6am-2pm ako duty tomorrow..usually maka-extend pako 4pm..naa pa kaha ko maabtan sa meeting if moderetso nako from Lapu-lapu? if not gani, pls post the agreed and approved resolution nalang..
    thanks..

  9. #9019
    Quote Originally Posted by lyledu View Post
    check lang sa buy and sell section.. naa ra man daghan namaligya dinha nga barato.
    --- lyle, question: asa mo magmiting ugma? what time?

  10. #9020
    Quote Originally Posted by em_ric View Post
    --- lyle, question: asa mo magmiting ugma? what time?
    fuente dunkin donuts at 1pm..

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