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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    well some guys here believes in the mercy of God..

    ana cla kad2ng naas kamot sa ginuo naa daw chance..

    ana sad ang uban kad2ng naas purgatoryo naa sad daw chance..

    and according to the bible murag parehas raman nang duha, ambot nganu naglalis na cla ganiha.. mga libog clag utok..ahahaha
    yes pareha naay chance but ang kadugayon pagsulod sa langit ang diffirence..
    if in state of grace ka namatay lanit ka daun.
    pero ug naa kay sala gamay, i serve pa na nimo sa progatory kung pilay sintensya ana.. until maserve na nimo ayha pa ka malangit..

  2. #842
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    mao btaw sa RC bsag namatay na ila kafamily deli jud makalimtan ipray jud japon..

    even ang saints nag.ampo pa japon..

    Revelation 5:8 - saints pray

    pasabot even if mamatay ka pwede japon ka magrepent or kad2ng naay sala pwede pa maluwas..

    unya onsaon nalang ug wala kay kapamilya or someone who will pray for you? imperno na dyud ka ana

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    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    I will answer you as honestly as I can. When it comes to faith, you can consider me a baby, so there's not much I know about Soteriology. I don't even know what it means. You can, however, explain it to me so I will be enlightened.

    If there's one thing I believe in, though, God gives us the free will so we'll be able to make full use of every gift he has given us, for example, talent. He gives us the freedom to determine the best way we can use it for our and other people's advantage.

    As for me--as I can only speak for what I believe in--to believe in the Crucifixion is to have faith on the promises of Christ that we have been saved. It's just up to us to decide if we are going to take the grace of salvation or not. Also, to believe in the Crucifixion is to have the tenacity to be humble and to repent for someone died to pay for our sins.
    I see. Are you a born again Christian?

    No. I mean the excercise of freewill for it to have a legitimate expression must be executed w/o any sort of manipulation coming from any outside force. Giving people a choice with threats and rewards for the decision they gonna be making is tantamount to deception and it runs against the very concept of FREEwill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rclong_rey View Post
    yes pareha naay chance but ang kadugayon pagsulod sa langit ang diffirence..
    if in state of grace ka namatay lanit ka daun.
    pero ug naa kay sala gamay, i serve pa na nimo sa progatory kung pilay sintensya ana.. until maserve na nimo ayha pa ka malangit..

    ask ko bro what kind of sintensya man pud sa porgatoryo aron ma luwas ka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_hard View Post
    unya onsaon nalang ug wala kay kapamilya or someone who will pray for you? imperno na dyud ka ana
    that only mean one thing kana cya wala nagrepent..

    earthly example: kung ikaw cge ka ask ug pasensya nga pasayloun sa imo amigo ang imo sad usa ka amigo nga nakasala niya.. unya ang imo amigo nga imo giask ok na cya nga mupasaylo pero ang problema ang usa kay naay pride deli jud..

    so deli nana imo problem but atleast nitabang ka.. ana lang gud..

    2 machabees 12:46 "it is therefore a Holy and Wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins" <<--- mao na buot pasabot ni rclong_rey..

  6. #846
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    I see. Are you a born again Christian?

    No. I mean the excercise of freewill for it to have a legitimate expression must be executed w/o any sort of manipulation coming from any outside force. Giving people a choice with threats and rewards for the decision they gonna be making is tantamount to deception and it runs against the very concept of FREEwill.
    Right now, I don't have any church to call home, but I am looking for one. I am a Roman Catholic, but no offense meant, I'm quite lost in the ministry right now. I am hoping to find one that will definitely allow me to grow spiritually and get to know more the Lord.

    Ikaw, are you a believer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    Right now, I don't have any church to call home, but I am looking for one. I am a Roman Catholic, but no offense meant, I'm quite lost in the ministry right now. I am hoping to find one that will definitely allow me to grow spiritually and get to know more the Lord.

    Ikaw, are you a believer?

    I want to believe that im a believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    okay. thanks for reply
    youre welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    I want to believe that im a believer.
    that's good anyway, good night. i like your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    that's good anyway, good night. i like your questions.
    good night too, .

    heads up, oops sorry padung naman ka ug tulog, so i'll say don't forget to fold your hands in prayer.

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