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  1. #371

    Quote Originally Posted by benicio View Post
    freemason na silang heros natu? pagsure diha?
    patuoha daw mi nga freemasons na sila

    unsay buot pasabot sa freemasons?
    freemasons - members of the Free and Accepted Masons (sometimes entitled Ancient Free and Accepted Masons), an international fraternal and charitable organization (source: wiktionary.org)

    basin wa pa ka kita sa tinood nga picture ni Jose Rizal, ang imong nahibaw-an nga picture niya ky naa lng sa posporo ug piso


  2. #372
    not all of Rizal is worthy to be followed ...

  3. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    Freemasonry is wolf in a sheep's clothing .. if you refuse to accept then I pray that you might be enlightened. I'm afraid because this secret cult is a great deception to its members and the cult itself is seeking to climb the stairs of the Church and is seeking to get the seat of Peter. I pray that Rome shall not be the seat of the AntiChrist.
    bwahahaha. nindota ani nga conspiracy oi.
    pero impossible ni mahitabo.

    kay ang Masonry is not a secret cult.

  4. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    not all of Rizal is worthy to be followed ...
    then we'll follow what is worth following.

  5. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    Freemasonry is wolf in a sheep's clothing .. if you refuse to accept then I pray that you might be enlightened. I'm afraid because this secret cult is a great deception to its members and the cult itself is seeking to climb the stairs of the Church and is seeking to get the seat of Peter. I pray that Rome shall not be the seat of the AntiChrist.
    did you know that Rome was a pagan empire before they adapt Jesus as their God? and have you forgotten the it was the Romans who crucified Jesus?

    what enlightenment are you talking about?

    I believe and praise the works of the saints but not worship them nga mga revolto, which is very similar to idolatry ug sa paganism

  6. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    did you know that Rome was a pagan empire before they adapt Jesus as their God? and have you forgotten the it was the Romans who crucified Jesus?
    Rome before was Anti-Christ diay.
    But they still practice paganism rituals para daghan sila maconvert sa ilang culto ug dili sad lisod.

  7. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    not all of Rizal is worthy to be followed ...
    makasulti na lng ka ug ingon ana ni Rizal karon ky enjoy naman kaayo kasa atong democracy karon of which he and other heroes had died for, who were mostly freemasons

  8. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    if they are then they should have opened their secrets to the church, have they? There must be some things that is in Freemasonry that they won't open it to the Church ... Low grade Freemasons do not even know the "truth" upheld by the higher grades. Why don't you listen to the testimonies of ex-high ranking Freemasons ... there are lots of books and resources over the net ...
    if one of the secrets of freemasons is worshipping the devil, then they could have been good actors doing charities or they could be doing the evil acts like kidnapping, terrorism, robbery and all the evil acts but they are not, same also those with higher degrees

    do you think that the church leaders don't have any secrets that they are hiding from the ordinary catholics? before, i can see that the church is very against sa lotto and jueteng, nadayon man ang lotto nganong nahilom man sila? do you think that the church is receiving money from lotto and jueteng? the church is against contraception, if these companies nga nagmanufacture ug pills and condoms muhatag ni sila ug percentage sa church, i'm sure muundang na sila ug kontra ana.

    you know what, wa man ko problem ana ba, i'm not against the church, it is the corruption and evil acts of some of the leaders, anyway there is karma, i remain a catholic just like i'm still a filipino even though there are corruptions sa atong country... questionable lng kaayo ni ang church against freemasonry, who had members that died for our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Psalter Spectre View Post
    St. Maximilian Kolbe has stood against such cult and even Mary herself whom above all things should be more knowledgeable than that of the general ...

    Devout Catholicism implies that you embrace all the teachings of the Church ... If he had embraced Freemasonry which is not reconcilable with the teachings of the Church then he is not devout at all.
    if the church knew that he was not a devout catholic because he is freemason, then why did they accept his donations? and if the church knew that he was a freemason, and accusing him a devil worshipper, then why did they accept his donations? you mean the church can accept donations from evil people?

  9. #379
    if one of the secrets of freemasons is worshipping the devil, then they could have been good actors doing charities or they could be doing the evil acts like kidnapping, terrorism, robbery and all the evil acts but they are not, same also those with higher degrees
    those are some of the forms of evil .. I can not tell if high ranking masons are the ones behind those things since they hide their "truth". It's is quite unfortunate to behold that as lower grade freemasons feel that they are doing justly by helping out society are made sheep's clothing for the high ranking wolves. If you are one, why don't you dare to ask your lodge head to disclose all to you all that is kept by them. Ask him also to ask the things kept by his immediate superior and so on and so forth.

    do you think that the church leaders don't have any secrets that they are hiding from the ordinary catholics? before, i can see that the church is very against sa lotto and jueteng, nadayon man ang lotto nganong nahilom man sila? do you think that the church is receiving money from lotto and jueteng? the church is against contraception, if these companies nga nagmanufacture ug pills and condoms muhatag ni sila ug percentage sa church, i'm sure muundang na sila ug kontra ana.
    there's nothing to argue ... if you feel that a parish priest or bishop is receiving something from those illegal things, report it to the archdiocese where he belongs. Priests and bishops are imperfect people they should be admonished and receive proper sanctions if they failed to do their responsibilities.

    you know what, wa man ko problem ana ba, i'm not against the church, it is the corruption and evil acts of some of the leaders, anyway there is karma, i remain a catholic just like i'm still a filipino even though there are corruptions sa atong country... questionable lng kaayo ni ang church against freemasonry, who had members that died for our democracy
    I'm happy that you're not against the Church. It's quite interesting to know that some of our heroes are freemasons, are they? They shed blood, as far as I know in all my history classes, for the love of their country and not that because they are freemasons.

    f the church knew that he was not a devout catholic because he is freemason, then why did they accept his donations? and if the church knew that he was a freemason, and accusing him a devil worshipper, then why did they accept his donations? you mean the church can accept donations from evil people?
    I don't know the whereabouts of the dead general. It might be that the Church has accepted his donations on the time he was not identified as one. I doubt if somebody from a parish would accept donation from a parishioner who is recognized as one.

  10. #380
    @skoilhp

    bro try ragud ug basa sa book nga art of deception by Kevin Mitnick..hehe

    kay kung ako lang pasultion there is no such thing as freedom if mao na imo gipoint out..hehehe

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