Closet Atheists

[AmorsoloX]

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there are people like me who prefer to bend and break those rules
--- there are people like us who will give a therapy to people who break those rulez... don't blame us if you are caught... breaking rulez is your choice and your liberty, but laws said nobody is above it... if you think you are... really check your prescription to what you are saying...

YOU JUST CANT GO OUT AND SLAP SOMEBODY AT YOUR OWN FREEWILL. Don't do that.

yes i can.. but i would expect the other guy to slap me back.. now that wouldnt be a profitable venture is it....

so police na diay ka karon... tsk tsk tsk.. on whose authority? show me your badge mr. officer..

we have our own ways of doing our stuff.. dont expect evrybody to live with the same rules as you.. we dont want your GOD, so why do you force it on us.. if you think we are going to hell, so be it.. you may be right, you maybe wrong.. there is no way you can find it out.. who knows, you might be worshipping the wrong God, so that would make you go to hell dba?

my point is, who are you as a fellow human being dare to impose to us on what we should believe and how we should klive our life.. we are not animals who wants to be domisticated..

[kebotDiNaMute]

yes they are of satan and you are of God! hahaha

God bless!

tanawa, imo ra jud na binuhatan reg... d na ako.. imo jud gipasumanginlan ang nag buhat... tsk tsk tsk...

[kebotDiNaMute]

being an athiest is not being a satanist.. being a satanist is just like being a christian/muslim/hindu or what..

to worship and follow a divine being.. for christians its christ, for satanists its satan.. they both believe and live according to a "divine" being.. the supreme good or the supreme evil..

being an athiest is simply not worshiping a divine being.. (the supreme neutral? ambot...)

why do some christians here harass the athiests? athiests are people too you know..

brad i dont think naka gets ka sa ako gi posts... and i dont imply that athiest is satanist on my previous post...

so you mean to say athiest is another faith? just like christian/muslim hindu or what? hmmmm... yes you are right...

[kebotDiNaMute]

yes i can.. but i would expect the other guy to slap me back.. now that wouldnt be a profitable venture is it....

so police na diay ka karon... tsk tsk tsk.. on whose authority? show me your badge mr. officer..

we have our own ways of doing our stuff.. dont expect evrybody to live with the same rules as you.. we dont want your GOD, so why do you force it on us.. if you think we are going to hell, so be it.. you may be right, you maybe wrong.. there is no way you can find it out.. who knows, you might be worshipping the wrong God, so that would make you go to hell dba?

my point is, who are you as a fellow human being dare to impose to us on what we should believe and how we should klive our life.. we are not animals who wants to be domisticated..

yes i can.. but i would expect the other guy to slap me back.. now that wouldnt be a profitable venture is it....
--- bullshit ni brad, if you shot the guy in the head... will you expect he will shot u back? tsk tsk tsk... logic tells me brad your reasoning of doing so are not close to sanity....

dont expect evrybody to live with the same rules as you
--- that is why you are in protest because you wanted to be free on these rulez... right? Yet that does not justify if you broke the law. Law is establish because there is always a common good and that serves the interest of the many... now do you expect everybody to follow those rules? I hope and i wish...

So you want us to be offenders? hmmm... i wonder how common sense works for unbelievers... hahay.

we dont want your GOD, so why do you force it on us..
--- force you hmmm... for me if you dont THEN DONT I DONT EVEN CARE. But dont tell us that religion is the cause of misery... on the first hand it is your faith that sends people to misery because you dont even care how people will react if you slap them at your own WILL. See!

who are you as a fellow human being dare to impose to us on what we should believe and how we should klive our life.. we are not animals who wants to be domisticated..
--- wtf! sorry brad, i did not impose my faith on you... i am telling you that christianity has nothing todo with your misery... isn't that clear to you... you know what dictators are athiest... and dictators impose... what do you think? have you been thinking lately?

[AmorsoloX]

yes i can.. but i would expect the other guy to slap me back.. now that wouldnt be a profitable venture is it....
--- bullshit ni brad, if you shot the guy in the head... will you expect he will shot u back? tsk tsk tsk... logic tells me brad your reasoning of doing so are not close to sanity....

dont expect evrybody to live with the same rules as you
--- that is why you are in protest because you wanted to be free on these rulez... right? Yet that does not justify if you broke the law. Law is establish because there is always a common good and that serves the interest of the many... now do you expect everybody to follow those rules? I hope and i wish...

So you want us to be offenders? hmmm... i wonder how common sense works for unbelievers... hahay.

we dont want your GOD, so why do you force it on us..
--- force you hmmm... for me if you dont THEN DONT I DONT EVEN CARE. But dont tell us that religion is the cause of misery... on the first hand it is your faith that sends people to misery because you dont even care how people will react if you slap them at your own WILL. See!

who are you as a fellow human being dare to impose to us on what we should believe and how we should klive our life.. we are not animals who wants to be domisticated..
--- wtf! sorry brad, i did not impose my faith on you... i am telling you that christianity has nothing todo with your misery... isn't that clear to you... you know what dictators are athiest... and dictators impose... what do you think? have you been thinking lately?

thats another story.. if i really wana do somebody harm.. ill make sure he cant retaliate.. good wat to prevent karma.... i dont mind shooting somebody in the head as long its beneficial to me.. this is the kind of mentality that keeps me alive and gives me a few steps ahead of sombody else..
mas maau motapak kay sa ikaw matapakan.. and im not doing it in a name of a god..

what i think is maybe insane to your standards.. its just that i simply think above and beyond your capacity of reasoning.. im being true to myself.. im what you call, a non-conformist..


well this guy doesnt like me... are you with this guy?

[AmorsoloX]

so you mean to say athiest is another faith? just like christian/muslim hindu or what? hmmmm... yes you are right...

yeah.. its just a faith.. a faith in no god..

[AmorsoloX]

Ah, and now we get to a defining truth of "Atheist Morality" to bad that it is not on the Buttmen thread. "You can be a moral person without God"

for me, there is no such concrete thing as morality.. morality is just concept created by men.. nobody dictates on what you should follow or not.. if you wish to follow the standards so be it.. its a choice.. nobody should force you...

[jamesmusslewhite]

yup.. our morality is based on our convenience.. not by what some other guy said.. we do good because we want to not because somebody said we should..

we do "immoral" things, or the things that you consider sinful because we want to.. its only immoral if you put malice into it.. its only bad cause you think its bad, its only good cause you think its good.. it depends on what you think..

we have no standard and we live by no standard.. we have freedom.. we are not confined to what is said or what is written..

if we are wolves.. so be it.. it means nothing to us.. we really dont like to hide in the name of righteousness.. we are honest with ourselves..

Well you have actually been the first honest Atheist on this forum, most try to act like saints in their posts.

6.6 Billion people on this planet, all struggling to maintain their religious morals of their faiths and obey the laws of their lands, most failing but still struggle to be moral and righteous.
2.2 Billion Christians
1.6 Billion Muslims
1.4 Billion Hindus
0.5 Billion Buddhist
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5.7 Billion - 85+% of the world in the top 4 Major Religions
then include in that number those that follow: Sikhism, Judaism, Cheondoism, Tenrikyo, Seicho-no Ie, Shinto, Taoism, Confucianism, and a dozen other various other major religions. Then Atheist ar what less than 5% They chose their own path, or they are following the path of the other 95% in the world.

I am skeptical that those that shares you views and attitude towards the laws, will not struggle to claim and maintain Morality to a the world's standard. It would have to be a new morality is based on your convenience. Sort of write it as you go, play it by ear, or as they say, "Just wing it."

5% or the world who refuse to follow the written laws of religious morality, will stay moral by following a non written law of your convenience gauged only by your acceptance of the definition of good, bad, or evil. Just steps away from the Mark transforming you into one of the children of the new "Red Khmer" who will cheerfully say, "To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss." The beginnings of the new moral belief of the next new and improved Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Saloth Sar. Well good luck with that new religion of yours.

I will still stick to the scriptures, they show me what is right and wrong, they instruct me to feed, cloth, and love my neighbor. They also tell me to be aware and not listen to the foolishness that is the world, to be aware of false Gods, prophets, religions, and beliefs. You may consider me close-minded, dense, and disillusioned, but that is your own opinion of convenience.

I am self aware, know my place in the universe, my third eye is open; and am enlightened to the true realities of the unseen forces around me. I am not a slave to this world and I am free. I walk the narrow path, because I have the strength of mind and heart to stay the course with my eye focused on the Godhead. Hope to see you at the Narrow Gate.

[chad_tukes]

no, John Lennon is not an atheist... i think he became a student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when The Beatles went to India and practice Transcendental Meditation technique... there are hidden messages in his song "Imagine", including the title... students of mysticism will understand them well as what John Lennon knew and had written in this song

just because Lennon was a student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, doesn't automatically discredit his being atheist. i can study Islam or theology and maintain atheism---heck, Catholic Universities here in America requires you to study theology no matter what your belief system is---which i think is pure bullshit. that's why i said---John Lennon being an atheist can be debated as he didn't really came out in the open. we can say that he probably was a closet atheist.

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anyhow, why are we talking about morality in this thread? this thread is about closet atheists, not morality.

[skoilhp]

just because Lennon was a student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, doesn't automatically discredit his being atheist. i can study Islam or theology and maintain atheism---heck, Catholic Universities here in America requires you to study theology no matter what your belief system is---which i think is pure bullshit. that's why i said---John Lennon being an atheist can be debated as he didn't really came out in the open. we can say that he probably was a closet atheist

probably he was... it could be possible also that he just wrote them by copying the lessons he knew but did not understand and practice them