Why Humans Believe in God

[AmorsoloX]

so when your child was caught stealing do you want the country to punish him or yourself? well building these moral starts at a very young age... i am willing to descipline your child bro... want to try me? its not painful, but if you dont bear the responsibility... thats where the law will take your child away from you...

dont tell me you dont know whats moraly right and wrong... that way you become dependent on others... well to tell you the truth... its easy... read your bible.

hmm.. if i caught my child stealing of course i will reprimand him.. but i will teach him on ways how to get what he wants.. atleast malipay ko kay ako anak agressive.. hehehehe.. di ko ganahan tao nga magpaubos... if ang bata nangawat og candy, teach him the possible bad consequences then teach him how he will earn his candy.. thats more effective...

discipline.. doing something in accordance with someone's wishes...

[Ger]

i agree with this.. our primitive ancestors decided that they cooperate with each other or else the big bad mammoth will kill them.. anybody who separates from the group is "immoral" or different and most probably will be dessert by the sabertooth tiger.. they didnt need to conform with each other because some god said so, they did it for survival..

the bible has no monopoly on the teachings of morality..

and then they fought with other tribes... dude, its not men versus animals stay focused... survival of the fittest sauna before religion was introduced...

[skoilhp]

It is quite possible to possess a reality that cannot be seen, touched, or comprehended by any of the outer senses. It is faith when we are fully conscious of "things not seen" and have the "assurance of things" not yet manifest. In other words, faith is that consciousness in us of the reality of the invisible substance and of the attributes of mind by which we lay hold of it. We must realize that the mind makes real things. "Just a thought" or "just a mere idea," we sometimes lightly say, little thinking that these thoughts and ideas are the eternal realities from which we build our life and our world.

Faith is the perceiving power of the mind linked with a power to shape substance. You hear of a certain proposition that appeals to you and you say, "I have faith in that proposition." Some man whose character seems right is described to you and you say, "I have faith in that man." What do you mean by having faith? You mean that certain characteristics of men or things appeal to you, and these immediately begin a constructive work in your mind. What is that work? It is the work of making the proposition or man real to your consciousness. The character and attributes of the things in your mind become substantial to you because of your faith. The office of faith is to take abstract ideas and give them definite form in substance. Ideas are abstract and formless to us until they become substance, the substance of faith.

Prosperity, by Charles Fillmore, 1936

[AmorsoloX]

and then they fought with other tribes... dude, its not men versus animals stay focused... survival of the fittest sauna before religion was introduced...

religion was used to create a stronger bond.. example would have been constantinople and the adoption of christianity.. if it hadnt been done .. there would have been more bloodshed..

my point is, religion is only a political tool.. you can use it to control/sway other people over to you..

thats the problem.. we forgot ,because of religion, that its about survival of the fittest..we have become soft and decadent.... to the point of stronger people are brainwashing us in the name of religion for them to increase their wealth and power... and well.. you cant say otherwise coz he said God on his side.. and you dont want to have the Big Guy as your enemy dba?

[Ger]

religion was used to create a stronger bond.. example would have been constantinople and the adoption of christianity.. if it hadnt been done .. there would have been more bloodshed..

my point is, religion is only a political tool.. you can use it to control/sway other people over to you..

thats the problem.. we forgot ,because of religion, that its about survival of the fittest..we have become soft and decadent.... to the point of stronger people are brainwashing us in the name of religion for them to increase their wealth and power... and well.. you cant say otherwise coz he said God on his side.. and you dont want to have the Big Guy as your enemy dba?

then the weak must die? that seems unfair brother... As for brainwashing, it cant be all true as you might notice, christians vs christians...

[Ger]

religion was used to create a stronger bond.. example would have been constantinople and the adoption of christianity.. if it hadnt been done .. there would have been more bloodshed..

and you say we dont need religion? because of it, strife had become less and people started loving each other...

[skoilhp]

In a sense there is nothing in all the great universe but law. If this is true there must of necessity be a force behind it all that is the maker of these laws and a force greater than the laws that are made. This Spirit of Infinite Life and Power that is back of all is what I call God. I care not what term you may use, be it Kindly Light, Providence, the Over Soul, Omnipotence, or whatever term may be most convenient. I care not what the term may be as long as we are agreed in regard to the great central fact itself.

In Tune With the Infinite, by Ralph Waldo Trine, 1910

[chad_tukes]

It is quite possible to possess a reality that cannot be seen, touched, or comprehended by any of the outer senses. It is faith when we are fully conscious of "things not seen" and have the "assurance of things" not yet manifest. In other words, faith is that consciousness in us of the reality of the invisible substance and of the attributes of mind by which we lay hold of it. We must realize that the mind makes real things. "Just a thought" or "just a mere idea," we sometimes lightly say, little thinking that these thoughts and ideas are the eternal realities from which we build our life and our world.

Faith is the perceiving power of the mind linked with a power to shape substance. You hear of a certain proposition that appeals to you and you say, "I have faith in that proposition." Some man whose character seems right is described to you and you say, "I have faith in that man." What do you mean by having faith? You mean that certain characteristics of men or things appeal to you, and these immediately begin a constructive work in your mind. What is that work? It is the work of making the proposition or man real to your consciousness. The character and attributes of the things in your mind become substantial to you because of your faith. The office of faith is to take abstract ideas and give them definite form in substance. Ideas are abstract and formless to us until they become substance, the substance of faith.

Prosperity, by Charles Fillmore, 1936

it becomes your reality alone and not reality based on FACTS and EVIDENCE. your own perceived "reality" is as good as lies, because fact of the matter is that it could be a mere by product of imagination and worse, hallucination. it cannot be tested nor disproved, so the burden of proof is not on the non-believer, but on the believer. faith is a belief in the unseen, therefore, we cannot say it's the general accepted truth, but rather, a perceived truth of the person alone. hence, it cannot be said it's true.

[AmorsoloX]

then the weak must die? that seems unfair brother... As for brainwashing, it cant be all true as you might notice, christians vs christians...

they dont have to die.. they just prefered to die.. unfair only if you choose to be weak.. life is a constant battle, you have the choice to be strong or to be weak.. nobody messes with the strong dba.. just like saddam, he played hardball with the US, look what happened to him.. the law of of the jungle always apply.. the weak shall perish and the strong will live..

life is unfair.. thats how i like it.. especially if you know how to play it on your terms..

[AmorsoloX]

and you say we dont need religion? because of it, strife had become less and people started loving each other...

yeah right.. didnt the islamist extremists are fighting within our country to have their own so called "muslim" homeland to freely practice their "faith", without religion, you take away one reason why people fight each other.

its better to admit that you need to kill somebody or rob somebody because you need/want to.. but to do it in the name of GOD?wtf.. why couldnt people be more honest?