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  1. #561

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ^^hehehe.. wala man pod lagi ang word "Bible" samot na "Ang Dating Daan"? pag wala sa biblia ay mali!

    ang point ana rcruman nga ang doctrina ninyo nga sola scriptura (word for word) is NOT biblical.
    Ha? naa miy doctrina nga word for word?
    ang translation ba sa sola scriptura kay word for word?

    bro kanus-a gud intawon mi niingon nga word for word, ang Shabu wala man sa bible, magshabu pud ka? or tarong ang shabu?


    Peace!

  2. #562
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    Sister alangan naman muingon ko nga sayop ko.
    Sister basaha ang bible og kung ang ako gihatag nimo wala ba sa bible, diha ka makahibalo.

    Did I acquired that wisdom? hmmmm... sister a singer can be judged as a singer based on their voice or song.

    That verses Luke 21:13-15 can be judged according to the word that came -out from the mouth.

    then try to compare my answer if its biblical, or it can't be found in your head.

    Simple ra ang argumento, tan-awa sa bible kung naa ba.

    Peace!
    ok but still you did not answer me directly.. hmmmmm i think that verse goes the same with the RC church ang problema lang wala moy dunggan para maminaw sa explanations and the worse part of it you guys judge it as wrong kay not in scripture daw.. hahays mao mani nahitabo ni jesus giingnan cya heretic daw..hehe

    bro ana d i na bro bantog wala nabutnag sa bible ang word that means that does not exist even if naay ebidensya?.. ako pangutana bro asa nabutang ang kad2ng kawatan gilansang nga giingnan ni jesus nga iya dad.on sa iya gingharian? did he go directly to heaven after jesus died or wala pa?..<--- if makatubag ka ana naa nkay clue wala jud ni nabutang sa bible kung naunsa ug asa ang iya kalag.. but the bible clearly speaks where ta padulong b4 entering heaven...

    take the example nga gipoint out sa video.. murag kaklaro jud a2 giexplain sa pari..

    nya how sure are you nga tanan words sad sa ginuo nakasulat na sa bible?..
    Last edited by dartzed; 11-05-2009 at 03:35 PM.

  3. #563
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    Ha? naa miy doctrina nga word for word?
    ang translation ba sa sola scriptura kay word for word?

    bro kanus-a gud intawon mi niingon nga word for word, ang Shabu wala man sa bible, magshabu pud ka? or tarong ang shabu?


    Peace!
    actually ang doctrina is sola scriptura.. pero ang inyong pagsabot is word for word kaayo, ug superficial ra kaayo inyong pagsabot sa mga verses.

    nagtudlo ba si cristo nga ang bible nga gicompile ug gipili-an sa tao mao ra jud tuhoan?

  4. #564
    Quote Originally Posted by FISHPEN View Post
    na ba gyud porgatoryo? asa sa biblia?
    naa sa mga Katoliko... sa Biblia, wala cguro... d ra man biblia ang basihan sa ilang religion

  5. #565
    I've read a story about a woman who has a gift of helping people who are in purgatory, and somehow, it gives me hope. But then, my goal is, of course, not to be there. Like other Christians, I hope to go to heaven

  6. #566
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    ok but still you did not answer me directly.. hmmmmm i think that verse goes the same with the RC church ang problema lang wala moy dunggan para maminaw sa explanations and the worse part of it you guys judge it as wrong kay not in scripture daw.. hahays mao mani nahitabo ni jesus giingnan cya heretic daw..hehe..
    Really? RC church answers question with the bible or they answers through their CATHECISM?
    wala miy dunggan? sister, amo paminawon ang tubag nga gikan sa bible dili ang gikan sa cathecism or sa interpretation sa nagtubag nga bisan asa gikuha.
    and lastly, I've answered you, the problem is you don't like it because it touches your ego.


    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    bro ana d i na bro bantog wala nabutnag sa bible ang word that means that does not exist even if naay ebidensya?.. ako pangutana bro asa nabutang ang kad2ng kawatan gilansang nga giingnan ni jesus nga iya dad.on sa iya gingharian? did he go directly to heaven after jesus died or wala pa?..<--- if makatubag ka ana naa nkay clue wala jud ni nabutang sa bible kung naunsa ug asa ang iya kalag.. but the bible clearly speaks where ta padulong b4 entering heaven...
    sister ayaw intawon padala sa imo conclusion, hatagan tikag example, ang SHABU naa sa bible pero wala naka butang nga word-for-word, ang PHILIPPINES naa sa bible pero wala nakabutang nga word-for-word.
    Mao na ako pasabot, kung nakasabot ka.

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    ako pangutana bro asa nabutang ang kad2ng kawatan gilansang nga giingnan ni jesus nga iya dad.on sa iya gingharian? did he go directly to heaven after jesus died or wala pa?..<--- if makatubag ka ana naa nkay clue wala jud ni nabutang sa bible kung naunsa ug asa ang iya kalag.. but the bible clearly speaks where ta padulong b4 entering heaven...
    so, kahibalo diay ka sa tubag?
    that instance that CHRIST said, I said TODAY you will be with me in paradise, does it mean tua na sa paradise ang usa sa kawatan?
    that TODAY means the time Jesus said the promise.
    kini ang basaha og ang tubag ni Jesus Christ.

    13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
    John 3:13



    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    take the example nga gipoint out sa video.. murag kaklaro jud a2 giexplain sa pari..
    nya how sure are you nga tanan words sad sa ginuo nakasulat na sa bible?..
    I'm sure kay mao man iya ingon.

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    Matthew 28:20.

    kasabot man siguro ka sa word nga "ALL"?

    so tanan kay gitudlo og gisulat sa mga apostol.

    1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
    2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
    3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
    4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
    1 John 1:1-4

    6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
    1 corinthians 4:6

    16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
    Isaiah 34:16

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    Galatians 1:8-9

    37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
    1 Corinthians 14:37

    17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
    2 Timothy 3:17


    wala mo kabantay or nagpabutabuta lang mo, tanang itubag sa pari about sa doctrina nga purgatory kay wala sa bible ang tubag, and yet kusog kaayo mo mutuo og muabot sa punto nga inyo ingnon "KULANG ANG BIBLE" mao nga gipun-an sa inyo simbahan.


    Basag bible sister.

    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
    John 8:47

    wala gisulat sa bible nga paminaw mo sa tubag sa uban nga wala sa bible.

    anyway naa man sa bible kini:

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
    2 Timothy 4:3-4


    ang gibarugan kay wala sa bible og grabeh ang kupot.


    Peace!

  7. #567
    og one thing, ngano kung naa na sa purgatoryo kay kung madamguhan sa kaliwat kay pamisa dayon, naa pay SPECIAL og REGULAR nga misa. Unsa na DHL or FEDex.

    sama sa giingon ni RIZAL, walay doctrina nga wala pabayri, mao bitaw lagot kaayo ang mga espanyol sa iyaha, basaha ang mga sulat ni rizal diba pahitungod sa Espanyol.

    even sa hapit na siya namatay, kay naay giingon ani:

    My Fatherland ador'd, that sadness to my sorrow lends
    Beloved Filipinas, hear now my last good-by!
    I give thee all: parents and kindred and friends
    For I go where no slave before the oppressor bends,
    Where faith can never kill, and God reigns e'er on high!
    Mi Ultimo Adiós (by Dr José Rizal)

    og ang duha niya ka famous nga books.
    rizal knew the bible that's why he wrote against the spaniards doctrine.

    Peace!

  8. #568
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post

    I'm sure kay mao man iya ingon.

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    Matthew 28:20.

    kasabot man siguro ka sa word nga "ALL"?

    so tanan kay gitudlo og gisulat sa mga apostol.
    ha? tanan gisulat sa mga apostol? sure ka?

    ang pangutana diha rcruman kung unsa nga ALL? All that was written in the bible? or All that He commanded whether it was written or not?

    beh, unsaon man kuno nimo pag reconcile ani?

    John 20:30
    30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book.

    John 21:25
    25But there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

    so na sipyat diay si Cristo ani rcruman kay imong gusto tanan ALL niyang gitudlo naa man kaha sa bible nimo?

    mao nay timan-e ninyo rcruman the bible contains the word of God, but not ALL of His words..
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 11-06-2009 at 09:08 AM.

  9. #569
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    og one thing, ngano kung naa na sa purgatoryo kay kung madamguhan sa kaliwat kay pamisa dayon, naa pay SPECIAL og REGULAR nga misa. Unsa na DHL or FEDex.

    sama sa giingon ni RIZAL, walay doctrina nga wala pabayri, mao bitaw lagot kaayo ang mga espanyol sa iyaha, basaha ang mga sulat ni rizal diba pahitungod sa Espanyol.

    even sa hapit na siya namatay, kay naay giingon ani:

    My Fatherland ador'd, that sadness to my sorrow lends
    Beloved Filipinas, hear now my last good-by!
    I give thee all: parents and kindred and friends
    For I go where no slave before the oppressor bends,
    Where faith can never kill, and God reigns e'er on high!
    Mi Ultimo Adiós (by Dr José Rizal)

    og ang duha niya ka famous nga books.
    rizal knew the bible that's why he wrote against the spaniards doctrine.

    Peace!
    surok jud kaayo imong dugo aning SPECIAL OR REGULAR nga misa sa? lolz

  10. #570
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    surok jud kaayo imong dugo aning SPECIAL OR REGULAR nga misa sa? lolz
    mohilak jud si rizal kung makakita siya sa simbahan karon..

    kay ang simbahan nagcorrupt ghapon sa mga tao.. by false/partial information and biased half-truths..

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