Imagine, no religion, no God

[AmorsoloX]

exactly.. to exist is to make our own definition of life.. or to redefine and make our own metaphors...

i agree.. and there is no one or group who can do that for you.. it is the ultimate crime to take that freedom from you

[AmorsoloX]

Without God It would be pure chaos.
Without religion - is Communism

Athiest are supposed to believe in survival of the fittest. (Fascism, and socialism)
Christianity believed in law and order.

Athiest also believes in Christian values but claims it as their own. Just Discarding the originator of these principles.
Although most religions today are just a means of fullfilling humans emotional needs, filling it with hope even though its based in fallacy.

there is no such thing as chaos.. all events on the universe happens to scientific laws.. its just there are still laws that we are yet to understand.. but ultimately, there is an infinite intelligence that made those laws. order through chaos

religions believed in law and order by those established by its elders to protect the status quo..
religion is nothing more than a political tool...

christian values did not origin from christians.. it originated from early humans who decided that the only way to survive is to work together so rules of conduct were made.. christianity has no monopoly for such values.. even the animals have their own values.. this is proven by the existence of social groups of animals.. to preserve such group, values had to be enforced..

the freedom to choose ones belief- democracy
to stick to religion - totalitarianism , tyranny and communism..

p.s.

the catholic church is the largest undemocratic institution in the world..

[Ger]

exactly.. to exist is to make our own definition of life.. or to redefine and make our own metaphors...

ultimately you dont have to define, you just got to live...

[kebotDiNaMute]

Without God It would be pure chaos.
Without religion - is Communism

Athiest are supposed to believe in survival of the fittest. (Fascism, and socialism)
Christianity believed in law and order.

Athiest also believes in Christian values but claims it as their own. Just Discarding the originator of these principles.
Although most religions today are just a means of fullfilling humans emotional needs, filling it with hope even though its based in fallacy.

TUMPAK! nice post bro...

[kebotDiNaMute]

there is no such thing as chaos.. all events on the universe happens to scientific laws.. its just there are still laws that we are yet to understand.. but ultimately, there is an infinite intelligence that made those laws. order through chaos

religions believed in law and order by those established by its elders to protect the status quo..
religion is nothing more than a political tool...

christian values did not origin from christians.. it originated from early humans who decided that the only way to survive is to work together so rules of conduct were made.. christianity has no monopoly for such values.. even the animals have their own values.. this is proven by the existence of social groups of animals.. to preserve such group, values had to be enforced..

the freedom to choose ones belief- democracy
to stick to religion - totalitarianism , tyranny and communism..

p.s.

the catholic church is the largest undemocratic institution in the world..

there is no such thing as chaos.. all events on the universe happens to scientific laws..
--- watch parallel universe bro... tell me if SUPERSTITION IS SCIENTIFIC.

religion is nothing more than a political tool...
--- rephrase, a great political tool. REmember: give to caesar what is due to caesar give to god what is due him... meaning politics and spritual are two different entity... dont make a mistake on this...

it originated from early humans who decided that the only way to survive is to work together so rules of conduct were made
--- this conduct survives a thousand of years because it works.. why oppose the rule? to become special?

even the animals have their own values..
--- its not values, its instinct... watch out. walay iro mo amen sa imo forehead nig abot nmo... walay iro mo excuse nig mo agi sa imo atubangan...

PS: the catholic church is the largest undemocratic institution in the world..
--- they dont represent christianity as a whole... Better you specifify how it is undemocratic so they will answer you... you are hitting bystanders...


to stick to religion - totalitarianism , tyranny and communism..
--- communism supress religion... why did you say this? did you know this? hmmm.. too many error... both analogy and definition....

[grovestreet]

Without God It would be pure chaos.
Without religion - is Communism

Athiest are supposed to believe in survival of the fittest. (Fascism, and socialism)
Christianity believed in law and order.

Athiest also believes in Christian values but claims it as their own. Just Discarding the originator of these principles.
Although most religions today are just a means of fullfilling humans emotional needs, filling it with hope even though its based in fallacy.

haha atheist do not claim these values as their own.

All they're saying is that all humans are capable of deeds of altruism and compassion without the blackmail or the "eternal life" bribe.

Besides, there's no point in trying to monopolize it as your Religion's own values and principles when even its own members are not putting them into practice.

[AmorsoloX]

there is no such thing as chaos.. all events on the universe happens to scientific laws..
--- watch parallel universe bro... tell me if SUPERSTITION IS SCIENTIFIC.

religion is nothing more than a political tool...
--- rephrase, a great political tool. REmember: give to caesar what is due to caesar give to god what is due him... meaning politics and spritual are two different entity... dont make a mistake on this...

it originated from early humans who decided that the only way to survive is to work together so rules of conduct were made
--- this conduct survives a thousand of years because it works.. why oppose the rule? to become special?

even the animals have their own values..
--- its not values, its instinct... watch out. walay iro mo amen sa imo forehead nig abot nmo... walay iro mo excuse nig mo agi sa imo atubangan...

PS: the catholic church is the largest undemocratic institution in the world..
--- they dont represent christianity as a whole... Better you specifify how it is undemocratic so they will answer you... you are hitting bystanders...


to stick to religion - totalitarianism , tyranny and communism..
--- communism supress religion... why did you say this? did you know this? hmmm.. too many error... both analogy and definition....

-natural laws like gravity... i do hope wala ka naglupadlupad lang..

-yeah right, the church has more political power than most governments in the past.. saying
something bout the king might not kill you but saying something bad bout the church certainly will..

-values is the colorful way of describing instincts.. and yes, ako iro mo amin sa ako paguli nako kay kabalo cya naa cya madawat lamion..

-there are people who use the name of GOD for their own causes while using the oto2x to do their will.. i oppose them because i dont agree with them.. that just it..

-you cant vote on who will be your priest, you cant vote who will be the church officials of the diocese.. talk bout democracy... it doesnt apply in the church

[AmorsoloX]

to stick to religion - totalitarianism , tyranny and communism..
--- communism supress religion... why did you say this? did you know this? hmmm.. too many error... both analogy and definition....

saying "patyon ka namo if nitoo ka og ginoo" is just like "if di ka motoo sa amo ginoo, patyon ka namo"...

gi suppress ghapon ka para motoo jud ka.. then religion becomes a requirement for you to live..

its not suppressing religion per se, its suppressing free will..

how is that different from saying..

"believe in me and i will grant you eternal life.. if you dont, you will suffer eternal punishment".. tsk tsk tsk.. kinsa ba di makuratan ana nga statement bi?

its interesting to know that there are christians who kill nonchristians simply because they dont believe on the same god..

[bluedes]

saying "patyon ka namo if nitoo ka og ginoo" is just like "if di ka motoo sa amo ginoo, patyon ka namo"...

gi suppress ghapon ka para motoo jud ka.. then religion becomes a requirement for you to live..

its not suppressing religion per se, its suppressing free will..

how is that different from saying..

"believe in me and i will grant you eternal life.. if you dont, you will suffer eternal punishment".. tsk tsk tsk.. kinsa ba di makuratan ana nga statement bi?

its interesting to know that there are christians who kill nonchristians simply because they dont believe on the same god..

when a religion becomes dogmatic, it becomes a problem..
i wonder if its better to be "catmatic".. (credit to regnauld)

but if a religion ceases to be dogmatic, is it still called a religion?

[munzter666]

saying "patyon ka namo if nitoo ka og ginoo" is just like "if di ka motoo sa amo ginoo, patyon ka namo"...

gi suppress ghapon ka para motoo jud ka.. then religion becomes a requirement for you to live..

its not suppressing religion per se, its suppressing free will..

how is that different from saying..

"believe in me and i will grant you eternal life.. if you dont, you will suffer eternal punishment".. tsk tsk tsk.. kinsa ba di makuratan ana nga statement bi?

its interesting to know that there are christians who kill nonchristians simply because they dont believe on the same god..

the emotional blackmail, the believe OR ELSE approach. replacing a loaded gun pointed at your tempo with disturbing and threatening messages of chuvaness.
and they have the balls to candy coat it with the terms FREE and UNCONDITIONAL, LOVE and PEACE. no sh!t.haha