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  1. #11

    Quote Originally Posted by buttmen View Post
    Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?
    Obstacles:
    So how do you define morals?

    Is your morals acceptable?

    Is your morals beneficial in the totality of it as a society?

    Religion is a business of saving lives... even if raped, christianity will not allow abortion.

    Why need God?
    --- coz its a very basic way of expressing your thankfulness. Because, we really need him. We are spinning at a celestial speed in the universe... if no ones in charge.. then we are big trouble.

    why go to church?
    --- songs are nice and inspirational. Gives you a good feeling. Makes you do good thing than bad. Gave you the opportunity to pray.

    Why pray?
    --- its just saying why think? Of course we pray in times of great trials and thankfulness. Its like asking a time out? So drinking is an option? lets see who got the better result...

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    you didn't get my point. i'm not talking about POLICING as in literally nga pulis. i was talking about POLICING from GOD. again, do we really need policing from GOD for us to do good deeds? isn't it more moral to do good things because you know it is GOOD? and not because you are afraid that GOD might punish you?
    Its better to know that there is a punishment of doing bad things than nothing at all... a simple lie doesn't have implication to the laws of the land... who will punish them? does it mean i can lie to you anytime i want? imagine a family of liars... hahaha!

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    it's the conditioning. then when we become skeptic of what we were taught, we still continue coz we want to play it safe. just in case heaven and hell do exist
    even if they exist or not... half believing doesnt save you... forget the crap... its either you have faith or not... in the end, thats the minimum requirements...

  4. #14
    Then why need a god?
    IMO I dont think so, we are given all we need to live in this world, I think we should be thankful and appreciate his creation, IMO we must do our best to know and experience ourselves to figure out what we really want to do in our lives

    Why go to church?
    since I was a kid, I think its kind a boring now, theres a lot of books or knowledge waiting to be read and learned.

    Why pray?
    I better meditate everyday . . .

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    GOD is like a heavenly surveillance camera who watches over people who do good things. GOD is like a police who punishes you when you are bad. question is, do we REALLY NEED policing --- in order to stop us from behaving in a selfish and criminal manner? hmmmmmm...
    if all becomes selfish, who will feed the less fortunate?

    have you become friend with greedy people? who keeps asking for your contribution... hmmm, i wonder if you can be happy with that...

  6. #16
    God dont need us, We need God...

  7. #17
    the weak shall inherit the earth.. B*llsh*t, i wonder who made that line up... the weak will be slaves to the strong.. maybe mao na iya motive..

    the law of the jungle applies.. the weak shall perish, only the strong shall live..

    morality is subjective.. what may be moral to you is immoral to another..

    religion is a hindrance in discovering our full potential... simply because biases are imposed on us..

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    the weak shall inherit the earth.. B*llsh*t, i wonder who made that line up... the weak will be slaves to the strong.. maybe mao na iya motive..

    the law of the jungle applies.. the weak shall perish, only the strong shall live..

    morality is subjective.. what may be moral to you is immoral to another..

    religion is a hindrance in discovering our full potential... simply because biases are imposed on us..
    hehehe..

    the weak shall inherit the earth.. it has truth in it.. just not what you expected it to be.. weak is taken in a different context..

    in the end, the supposedly "weak" are actually smarter and stronger than the supposedly "strong" in this worldly terms..

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    hehehe..

    the weak shall inherit the earth.. it has truth in it.. just not what you expected it to be.. weak is taken in a different context..

    in the end, the supposedly "weak" are actually smarter and stronger than the supposedly "strong" in this worldly terms..
    Einstein, GW Bush(yah right ), Hawking, Bill Gates...these guys have a slim chance of survival in the time of gladiators. they are lucky to be born on their timeframe.haha

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    Einstein, GW Bush(yah right ), Hawking, Bill Gates...these guys have a slim chance of survival in the time of gladiators. they are lucky to be born on their timeframe.haha
    hehe.. i'm not referring to weak and strong in physical strength..

    those who appear strong are actually weak.. and those who appear weak are actually strong..
    the truly strong have no desire to show their strength.. but the truly weak.. man, they're insecure they have to brag about trying to convince everyone that they're strong..

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