Tinuod ba may porgatoryo?

[noister]

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Basa lang sa mga Encyclopedia mam dartzed naa daghan diha reference.



Part jud na sa Apocrypha ..... Basin ilaha napod tangtangon ...

Only the Bible (Word of God), angay tuhuon ug wala na lain. coz the Bible (Word of God) is the only book nga ge inspired sa Ginoo.

[noister]

na ba gyud porgatoryo? asa sa biblia?

wala jud... as in WALA sa BIBLE (Word of God).

[dartzed]

a. The Wisdom of Solomon (30 B.C.), known as the Book of Wisdom
b. Ecclesiasticus (132 B.C.), also known as Sirach
c. Tobit (200 B.C.)
d. Judith (150 B.C.)
e. 1 Maccabees (110 B.C.)
f. 2 Maccabees (110 B.C.)
g. Prayer of Azariah (100 B.C.) placed as Daniel 3:24-90
h. Susanna (100 B.C.) placed as Daniel 13
i. Bel and the Dragon (100 B.C.), placed as Daniel 14
j. Baruch (150-50 B.C.), placed as Baruch 1-5
k. Letter of Jeremiah (300-100 B.C.) placed as Baruch 6
l. Additions to Esther (140-130 B.C.), placed as Esther 10:4-16:24

suppose to be wala ni labot sa inyoha Bible

m. 1 Esdras (150-100 B.C.), also known as 3 Esdras
n. 2 Esdras (150-100 B.C.), known as 4 Esdras
o. Prayer of Manasseh (100 B.C.)

While there are 15 total books in the Apocrypha, Roman Catholic Bibles count only 11 because they combine the Letter of Jeremiah with Baruch and omit 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh

if you will trace the creation of the bible it happened during the time of St. Damasus I 382 A.D., Baruch, Tobit,1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Sirach, Wisdom and parts of Daniel and Esther these are part of the original bible 46 books of the old testament 27 on the new testament if naa daw iapil ani wala na daw labot and he said those are Apocrypa. wala naapil ang 3 and 4 Maccabees, 151 psalm, the prayer of Manasseh ug ang esdras.. deli na nimo makita sa RC nag bible asa kaman kita ana bro?..

the 1st bible was used for both early Christian sectors Roman Catholic and the Orthox, pila ka years nilabay niabot ang reformation here comes Luther iya gitangtang ang 7 books para imirror niya sa scripture sa Jewish councils sa una himo cya bible iya mao nang inyo gitamdan krn.. <<---- on what authority?

if gsunod mo sa jewish nga bible then dapat deli mu mugamit sa NEW TESTAMENT kay ang NEW TESTAMENT wala mana dawata sa mga Jews kay alang kasagaran sa teaching did2 sa NEW TESTAMENT naa man makita/napredict sa 7books w/c testifies greatly that Jesus was the Messiah.. the Jews rejected Jesus and his apostles teachings.

But 2 Esdras is found some catholic bible ( Good News Bible 1979 version )


Mam Dartzed na abot ta sa Apocrypha because all i want to show is The Purgatory And The Praying of the Dead Doctine is a wrong doctrine since that concept was base on 2 Maccabees which is an Apocryphal Books.

some but that doesnt mean RC murag deli raman RC ang Catholic bro.. no the concept of purgatory was found even if wala ang 2 Maccabees kita kas video nga ako gihatag mao toy tamdi if deli ka ganahan sa 2 Maccabees..

you start it here 9 na cla kabuok if naa kay time please do watch it para matubag ka ana..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk-Ck...eature=related

[dartzed]

Only the Bible (Word of God), angay tuhuon ug wala na lain. coz the Bible (Word of God) is the only book nga ge inspired sa Ginoo.

lolz the bible was not made by God but by man, plus the bible does not contain all of God's words apil na ang tao nga nagsulat.. so dont tell me that only the bible maoy word of God..

mao jud book nga giinspire sa ginuo sakto then why would you protestants change the bible at the 1st place?.. sukad pagawas ni Luther ang iya nman bible inyo gisundan?..lolz

[necrotic freak]

Wala pa siguro sa una Barbershop bro .... hehehehe OT

“Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?” (1 Cor. 11:14-15)

kung ang babae bro mubo na ug buhok disgrace to her na diay? nasayop lang mo ug interpret ana bro oi.

gi allow man lagi sa Ginoo ang pag pataas ug buhok sa mga nazarite nga nag take sa vow of abstinence?

[amingb]

the 1st bible was used for both early Christian sectors Roman Catholic and the Orthox, pila ka years nilabay niabot ang reformation here comes Luther iya gitangtang ang 7 books para imirror niya sa scripture sa Jewish councils sa una himo cya bible iya mao nang inyo gitamdan krn.. <<---- on what authority?

Wala na gi tangtang ni Luther mam Dartzed kay before siya ning hawa sa Roman Catholic kanang Apocrypha that you mention the 7 books is not yet Canonized. Nag rebelde na si Marthin Luther wala pa ang Council of Trent. At the Time before sa Council of Trent parihas ra tanan Bible.

[amingb]

Wala na gi tangtang ni Luther mam Dartzed kay before siya ning hawa sa Roman Catholic kanang Apocrypha that you mention the 7 books is not yet Canonized. Nag rebelde na si Marthin Luther wala pa ang Council of Trent. At the Time before sa Council of Trent parihas ra tanan Bible.

Mao ni Purpose sa Council of Trent ...

The council issued condemnations on what it defined as Protestant heresies and defined Church teachings in the areas of Scripture and Tradition, Original Sin, Justification, Sacraments, the Eucharist in Holy Mass and the veneration of saints.

Mao ni issue ni Marthin Luther dili ang Apocryphal Books kay ang apocryphal books during that time is still not yet a part of the Canon.

[Ger]

wa jd ghapon ni matan.aw?... some pipol are more a reader than a listener mn gd sis... pwedi i-summarize nalang...

[noister]

lolz the bible was not made by God but by man, plus the bible does not contain all of God's words apil na ang tao nga nagsulat.. so dont tell me that only the bible maoy word of God..

mao jud book nga giinspire sa ginuo sakto then why would you protestants change the bible at the 1st place?.. sukad pagawas ni Luther ang iya nman bible inyo gisundan?..lolz

made by man, man that inspired by God (2 Tim 3:16), that we might be equipped (2 Tim 3:17).

and i am not a protestant ... i just follow the Bible (Word of God), which is the truth.

[dartzed]

Wala na gi tangtang ni Luther mam Dartzed kay before siya ning hawa sa Roman Catholic kanang Apocrypha that you mention the 7 books is not yet Canonized. Nag rebelde na si Marthin Luther wala pa ang Council of Trent. At the Time before sa Council of Trent parihas ra tanan Bible.

thats the point walay problem ang 2 ka early christians sa nahimong bible until now mao ra japon ila gigamit.. asa man imo pilion ang naghimo sa bible nya gaagi ug daghan councils para mafinalize(nag.agi pag daghan gubot) or ang usa ra ka tao nga nag.usab sa bible without any authority?..

y muingon kaman wala giusab nga naa man gani nua gitangtang.. isearch ragud sa damasus list mao man jud na ang orig nga list sa content sa bible..