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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Di ba purgatory is like hell in your doctrine? only that you have a chance to be saved from hell...now when you are not in harmony with others, do you think you experience being in the purgatory or hell for that matter?

    BTW, how do you define purgatory in your own understanding not based from your religion?
    No it's not like hell.. nobody knows what it is there basta ang gamit ra niya if cleansing area..lolz
    why would i define it by myself if i want to follow our doctrine?..

  2. #472
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    No it's not like hell.. nobody knows what it is there basta ang gamit ra niya if cleansing area..lolz
    why would i define it by myself if i want to follow our doctrine?..
    Follow ka sa wrong doctrine which is based on the Apocryphal Books .....

  3. #473
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    The Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament Canon Bible is Jesus Christ ......
    kaya nga may sinabi messiah but walang pangalan niana ra naay muabot nga messiah.. sa new testament raman nigawas ang Jesus nga name.. since cya ang nagfullfil sa mga prophesy then nproven nga cya jud ang messiah..

    those 7 books sa RC naa man sad mga phophesies did2 about the messiah or ang mga mahitabo b4 and after pag.abot sa messiah..

  4. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Follow ka sa wrong doctrine which is based on the Apocryphal Books .....
    how can you say that nga gitun.an man sad na namo bro.. may man kamo ra ang ngtuon sa scriptures.. usa pa deli mana ipagamit sa simbahan nmo kung deli related with the other writtings sa uban nga books(cannon).. nya saon man kay ang nigawas sa pila kayears of study kay related man jud and of course naa jud evidence..

  5. #475
    Apocryphal Book is not Inspired by God ... daghan teaching dili mao and daghan teaching contradict the Christian Doctrine .... that is why wala na gi apil sa Canon ... St. Jerome was only pressured to inlcude that in the Vulgate.

    Naa pay gi ingon sa Apocrypha ay sabta ninyo ug sakto ba ....

    28 For my son the Messiah shall be revealed with those who are with him, and those who remain shall rejoice four hundred years. 29 After those years my son the Messiah shall die, and all who draw human breath.” (2 Esdras 7:28-29, NRSV)

    Mamatay daw ang Messiah sa end of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    No it's not like hell.. nobody knows what it is there basta ang gamit ra niya if cleansing area..lolz
    why would i define it by myself if i want to follow our doctrine?..
    You want to know where I got the idea that purgatory is like hell?

    You might want to read PURGATORY by Fr. Frederick Faber (I have read this when I was in the seminary)

    Is Purgatory almost like Hell? Or is it a place of peace and even joy? The famous Fr. Faber explains both of these classic Catholic views of Purgatory, basing his discussion on Catholic teaching and the revelations of saintly souls, especially St. Catherine of Genoa, in her Treatise on Purgatory. Impr. 85 pgs, PB

    So, you mean to say all definitions of purgatory outside the catholic church definition is absolutely wrong? I see.

  7. #477
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    You want to know where I got the idea that purgatory is like hell?

    You might want to read PURGATORY by Fr. Frederick Faber (I have read this when I was in the seminary)

    Is Purgatory almost like Hell? Or is it a place of peace and even joy? The famous Fr. Faber explains both of these classic Catholic views of Purgatory, basing his discussion on Catholic teaching and the revelations of saintly souls, especially St. Catherine of Genoa, in her Treatise on Purgatory. Impr. 85 pgs, PB

    So, you mean to say all definitions of purgatory outside the catholic church definition is absolutely wrong? I see.
    daan pakow..hehehe

  8. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Apocryphal Book is not Inspired by God ... daghan teaching dili mao and daghan teaching contradict the Christian Doctrine .... that is why wala na gi apil sa Canon ... St. Jerome was only pressured to inlcude that in the Vulgate..
    kinsa nag.ingon gipressue bro?..

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Naa pay gi ingon sa Apocrypha ay sabta ninyo ug sakto ba ....

    28 For my son the Messiah shall be revealed with those who are with him, and those who remain shall rejoice four hundred years. 29 After those years my son the Messiah shall die, and all who draw human breath.” (2 Esdras 7:28-29, NRSV)

    Mamatay daw ang Messiah sa end of times.
    asa man end of times ana bro?..

  9. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    The Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament Canon Bible is Jesus Christ ......
    hmmmmm imu raman gibalik ako gistorya bro..

  10. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    kinsa nag.ingon gipressue bro?..
    Jerome (340-420 A.D.) reluctantly inserted Judith, Tobit, the Additions to Esther, and the Additions to Daniel into his Latin Vulgate after some "friendly" pressure. The rest of the apocryphal books were added to the Vulgate after his demise.


    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    asa man end of times ana bro?..
    According sa passage which is messianic in nature mo Rule daw ang Messiah for 400 Years after ana ( which the end of age or time ) mamatay ang Messiah ug tanan mga katawhan.

    Saon mamatay diay ang Ginoo sa Roman Catholics lahi diay na inyoha Ginoo.

    Naunsa mani si mam dartzed e deny jud niya ang tinood nga mao mana nakasulti sa inyoha Bible

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