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  1. #71

    With all the clarifications made by true blue Rosicrucians here, let's hope that Lovely_Charm and the others who doubts the authenticity of the order and the good reputation of Master JL now knows the truth. And whether she and the others will admit anything about this, it's up to them and it doesn't matter anymore.

    To us students of the order, we are moving on and continue to do the task at hand for the benefit of ourselves, our loved ones, our country and the world.

    Let us now put an end to this.

    Fraters, Sorors, let's intensify our radiation of love, peace, harmony, wisdom, compassion and joy now more than ever. We all need these. The world needs more people to radiate these positive attributes.

    PEACE!

  2. #72
    I heard about the statements made against Frater Jose. I cannot keep silent in the face of such attacks on a person whom I have had the privilege to meet, dine, and laugh with. For, beyond all the accolades, Frater Jose has always been, first and foremost, a friend. Perhaps, the truest friend one can meet in all of one’s lifetimes.

    I became a member of his orders way back in 1998. I have seen him struggle through the years to bring these ancient orders and their teachings here. Yes, there were others willing to help out. But, always, it was Frater Jose who bore the primary burden of keeping these Orders running. Yet, never did I feel that he resented the demands imposed on him by us – members who sought him for his advice, his presence, and his help.

    Once you get to sit and listen to him, his jokes bring forth laughter from those around him. He exudes joy that makes you feel that everything in the world is going to be all right. You leave with a measure of peace.

    Yet, he does all of these in the midst of all his other activities, for he is a most productive man. He has always told us to love these Orders and the teachings they hold. For these are what will help our countrymen. That to love these Orders, we have to practice the teachings. And, we must work to serve others. To ensure that they have the chance to get the teachings -- as we had that same chance. Of course, it is up to us individually what we do with that chance.

    He makes me feel like a child to whom the world is a playground. Life is a great play! To feel this way when I’m way too old and too busy with the responsibilities of my world, is a great gift from him. I hold a regular job as a Planning, Research and Publications administrator for a respected educational institution in Central Luzon. At the same time, I help in establishing KMCE lodges in Central and Northern Luzon.

    I am so grateful for the many who have come forth to defend him. I have learned many things from their posts. Frater Jose isn’t someone who would brag about himself. Funny thing is, knowing him, he will only laugh at these attacks! And, remind those of us who come to his defense that it is not needed!!!

    I do not think the outpouring of support can be stemmed or stopped. We owe what we are to Frater Jose and the teachings he had worked hard to bring into our country. It is in gratitude that I feel compelled to write this reply. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way.


    To my fellow chelas of the Vajrayana Order in Cebu, keep up the good work! May our fellow chelas find their way to your portals.


    Peace profound to all...

  3. #73
    My Master, Joseji i owe him much.. no... i cant repay all the things he gave and showed me. He taught me how to love truly, to respect life and to live in goodness. Wala akong nakilalang katulad niya na nagmahal ng totoo, na talo pa ang pagmamahal ng isang magulang s isang anak. Wala akong nameet na tao na pwedeng magsacrifice ng life niya para s ikabubuti ng marami...sa ikabubuti ng members.. sa ikabubuti ng Pilipinas.... He is like a Father to me, and I treat my Master as my father....and it hurts me to know that someone was attacking my Master's Good Name and The Name of the Order. The Order that he protected for its members and for all Filipinos. The Order that wants to help remove the suffering of our country. The Order that is a gift to us... What is your motive Lovely Charm?

    To Lovely Charm:

    Kung ano man ang agenda mo... tigilan mo na... Ksi wala nman ginagawa sayong masama ang Order lalu na ang Master ko... at hindi ko rin gustong makipagdebate sayo. Dont desecrate the good name and reputation of the Order, and the Name of My Master!

    But just in case you can't help it.. or if someone's telling you to do it, a person or a group or an organization... i'll be most willing to give you my number... this is my personal stand.... not of my Master not of the Orders... just my personal stand..... let's meet.... but dont desecrate them...and if its your nature to attack and malign other people... again I'll tell you... not the Order...not my Master....

  4. #74

    Default Let's go legally

    I have been monitoring for 2 months your malevolent attacks, devilish insinuations and fervent character assassination of my dear teacher, Frater Jose Lagutan and our Orders. I am a soldier. I love this country. This man has brought light and goodness that will make our people return to the nobility that once it possessed. I am a graduate of PMA and a Westpointer. My rank now is two-star general. I am also a member of Freemasonry of the 32nd degree. I am also a member of AMORC. There are many members of our Order who are our brother masons here in Manila and in Cavite who has the ranks of colonels, majors and captains and some are even police officers whom look up to Frater Jose Lagutan for guidance. In the service, there are a lot of opportunities to get rich easily and to get the highest ranks by padrino system and corruption yet proud to say that I and some of the military and police officers didn’t succumbed to it and will never. And you know why? It’s because of this man, Fra. Jose Lagutan. He sternly advised us not to succumb to the evil of corruption. And he said when I was still a major that I will reach my rank as general by visualization, doing service to the country, charity works and it did happen. You can fulfill your dreams without doing evil, manipulation or coercion.
    I have 2 sons. One is studying now in UP and the other in Ateneo. Their idol is Frater Jose Lagutan. He is also their guru. You know why? A few people know about this. Fra Jose Lagutan is not just a benevolent mystic but also a child prodigy. At the age of nine, he has memorized Britannica Encyclopedia form A-Z. He can multiply 5 digits in split seconds, a true math wizard and has mastered nuclear chemistry, and physics. These are all according to my son and some friends, I don’t know these things. My brain is not capable of understanding these things. I am only a patriot who loves this country. He is even a very cultured man. He is a poet, a writer and have played many musical instruments, such as the classical guitar, the flute and you must see him play his saxophone, oh my God! Its too sexy and heavenly. You are destroying and maligning the idol of my children. This is the man, if he has been also a soldier, but I know he is a soldier of Light. I will follow him even unto hell just to be his aid and server.
    We military and police officers within the Order could not even attend the convocation because of our duties to our country and frater Jose Lagutan still loves us. And whenever we meet him, he would gladly talk to us, spend time with us in spite of our absences in meetings and convocations.
    I have contacted my mista in the academy there in Cebu and monitored you for 2 months. I am not a very powerful mystic. I even have a hard time concentrating. I will fight you legally. I am a lawyer and I have a masteral degree in Business Administration. We have found out that you and your group, join mystical organizations, get their teachings, copy it and then malign them. We have found out also that there is a man there in Guadalupe Cebu who is involved also in maligning our Organizations. I will always go legal with you. You’re bordering on slander, malicious mischief, defamation, libel. I have conferred with some lawyers and judges who are members of our Order. My dear child, you and your group could go to jail. We have also found out there are racketeers and swindlers among your group. I hope you are not one of them. Maybe you do not know this because some of them pretend to be mystically minded but in their private lives, they are totally corrupt; total hypocrites indeed. Stop dragging the name of Frater Jose Lagutan, the reputable name of AMORC, and Freemasonry in your malicious attacks. I will go legally to protect these Orders. Stop now. Let frater Jose do his work. Let my guru, the idol of my children do his work in spreading light and goodness and honesty to our people. Stop maligning the Orders. Stop now. Please stop now or all your group goes to jail.

  5. #75

    Default Forgiveness

    I am Frater Jose Lagutan. My earthly name, my little earthly body, and the sacred names of our Beloved Orders have been viciously attacked by certain sectors of people there in Cebu. I deeply appreciate your outpouring of support for my little name, my little body and our sacred Orders. Emotions are high, I understand it. But this must stop. Anyway, this body of mine is just a casket and my name, what humans call reputation is just a label given by my dearest mother. I am Spirit, I am Soul. No one can malign Soul. Our Orders are strong. Their Light is spreading all over the Philippines and the world. Nothing earthly or demonic can stop its Light. Now, we must pass the path of forgiveness. These people do not know what they are doing. They are like little children playing with fire. In so doing, sometimes, they burn themselves. Some of these people were manipulated by those who are either expelled or envious of our Orders. Tolerance is the mark of a true Rosicrucian and a chela of the Vajrayana School. My master said, “Humility, humility, humility.” Let us humble ourselves before our attackers and embrace them with our love.

    So now, let us go on with our lives and stop posting either pro or against these little children. Again, I say they do not know what they are doing and they have the right for forgiveness. Forgive, forgive, forgive. Let there be peace in all our hearts. Again, thank you fraters and sorors for your support. Let us go on with our lives. Peace be unto all.
    Again, your little brother, Jose

  6. #76
    Hi Everyone,

    ammm wala jud ko kasabot ani nga thread but im interested to know more about Father Jose.
    Are you all Christians? Is he teaches about GOD? Do you believe in GOD? Do bible study or unsa pa... (gusto lng ko makahibaw =) )

    What ive learned so far, regarding sa inyong mga giposts diri is all about englightenment sa life, soul and etc.. How to enjoy life and so on...

    Sorry but wala jud ko kagets sa uban.. =)
    hmmm need more research pa siguro...
    Last edited by bluevenderlac; 10-23-2009 at 12:56 PM.

  7. #77
    bluevenderlac:

    I would like to invite you to come and attend one of our seminar and even if there's no schedule, you can just come to Diplomat Hotel any Sunday. We are there from 1-5 pm. One of the monks can give you a one on one orientation so you will have an idea of what our order is all about it.

    But I want to encourage you to try our school for at least a month to six months to see what transformations can happen to your life. Then you can decide if you want to continue or not.

    Pm me if you want to come so I can personally meet you.

    Peace to you!

  8. #78
    Hello, thanks for the reply... i'll think about it di pa karon sunday coz need to rest pa coz gahapon lng ko nagdonate ug blood gud .hehehe loya pa. hmmm hope you dont mind me asking if inaana siya fee or something? thanks a lot!...

  9. #79
    when is your next free seminar? i would like to attend.

  10. #80
    For more info on the group just visit this site: vajrayana.tk

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