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  1. #101

    @skoilhp,

    next time napud ta ha kay 4am na diri...tulog sa ko kay kapoy na...nyt nyt!

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    so kung ganahan ta ma pareha ni Jesus, mamanday sa ta gkan 12-18, then preach dayon ta sa mga synagogues specially kung mag 30+ na atong edad?
    aw naa ra gud nimo kung gusto kang mamanday ka...

    huna hunaa pud, that was 2000 yrs ago ug basin ang panday nila sa una engineer sa panahon nato ron maong ayaw i underestimate ang panday bro...

    tulog sa ko bro ugma na pud...

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Revelation 1:7(NASB)

    "BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so. Amen."

    so therefore the return is visible to everyone ....
    let's analyze this, let's say he is coming with the clouds, so meaning to say, he is in the clouds up in the sky? or coming from the clouds then land to the ground? and every eye will see Him? meaning kung naa sya sa sky, he needs to enlarge Himself para makita sa tanan - using our human perception, mao gyud ni atong ma analyze, and there is nothing wrong with that analysis using human interpretations

    d kaha naa pa lawom nga meaning ani... the clouds could be the higher planes of consciousness accessible only through Christ Consciousness and that's how you can meet Him?

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    aw naa ra gud nimo kung gusto kang mamanday ka...

    huna hunaa pud, that was 2000 yrs ago ug basin ang panday nila sa una engineer sa panahon nato ron maong ayaw i underestimate ang panday bro...

    tulog sa ko bro ugma na pud...
    no, wala gyud na nako gi underestimate ang panday, it's a noble job, but what i'm pointing out here, the real mission of Jesus is to unite Man with God, to bring back man to God, and dli cya mag panday panday lng, meaning he cannot carry out his mission kung ma manday pa cya to earn money, maybe na mis interpret lng, could be foreman or maybe they have a construction business, meaning datu daan ang pamilya ni Jesus, and he could travel anywhere tungod sa ilang kadatu, and he could carry out his mission ky sakto man cya ug funding.

    to reunite Man with God is the mission of Jesus, and how could accomplish this? by teaching people to have Christ Consciousness or Cosmic Conscionsness through meditation. There was a record of Him in a monastery in India, and he is teaching those to the people there, and it was well preserved ky wala man control ang ubang countries didto.

    What do you think is the real mission of Jesus?

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    so kung ganahan ta ma pareha ni Jesus, mamanday sa ta gkan 12-18, then preach dayon ta sa mga synagogues specially kung mag 30+ na atong edad?
    brad comment ko ha...

    what i understand ani na passage brad is, nibalik si christ sa iyang hometown while he is on his ministry na...

    scenario:
    In israel brad if Panday Imo papa ang kamagwangan na lalake maoy mo puli sa legacy sa iyang papa. Remember na si Christ Kamagwangan... Usually man gud brad, panday is morelike a public utility naay ma daot tawagon dayon...

    Those who are in Synagogues are people with academic qualification, and those who are called rabbi are almost at par. Rabbi are people who do ministry. OK.

    Pag abot ni christ sa iyang hometown mga tawo walay bilib niya, kay panday na cya before og walay educational attainment na ikapang hinambog.

    thats how things were...sa ako nahibal an.... I hope wala ko ni kontradict bisan kinsa... I dont want to preach... i just want to clarify this passage.

    for additional input goto:
    Online Parallel Bible: Weaving God's Word into the Web check out the commentaries from bible scholars

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    cge dili nalang nako dugay dugayon kay matulog napud ko karong taud taud kay 3:33am na diri...

    Mar 6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

    Mar 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

    i analyse ang scenario. sa pag preach ni Jesus, nahibulong ang mga tawo kung dis a gikan ang wisdom ni Jesus nga panday raman unta siya. so meaning, nakita sa mga tawo ang gibuhat ug ang panginabuhi ni Jesus. namanday siya before siya magsugod ug preach. ug sensical pud kaayo kung mutuo ta nga namanday siya kay panday gud si Joseph nga iyang ginikanan. natural mutabang jud si Jesus sa iyang ginikanan...

    ug dili kinahanglan pang muadto pa ug India si Jesus para mag study kay siya mismo ang wisdom sa Ginoo.

    1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

    see? unknown gud intawn...
    Tama nga depensa ni...Jesus clearly states that He is the source of all this wisdom by virtue of His being one with the Father's Wisdom. Ang tanong- naa diay didto's India ang Wisdom sa Father? asa sa lugar ba sa India o usa sa mga tao didto's India? Being the Son of God does Jesus really need other people to teach Him how to arrive at God's Wisdom when He himself is in fact claim that HE IS THE ONLY WAY to have wisdom of God. It's not for no reason Jesus was proclaimed Kings of kings, Lord of lords or Master of all master kung naa pay lain nag-train niya, except the Father Himself.

    Di na kinahanglan pa maghatag ug pruweba kung gi-state ba sa Bible nga asa si Jesus during His silent years...common sense will suffice.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    brad comment ko ha...

    what i understand ani na passage brad is, nibalik si christ sa iyang hometown while he is on his ministry na...

    scenario:
    In israel brad if Panday Imo papa ang kamagwangan na lalake maoy mo puli sa legacy sa iyang papa. Remember na si Christ Kamagwangan... Usually man gud brad, panday is morelike a public utility naay ma daot tawagon dayon...

    Those who are in Synagogues are people with academic qualification, and those who are called rabbi are almost at par. Rabbi are people who do ministry. OK.

    Pag abot ni christ sa iyang hometown mga tawo walay bilib niya, kay panday na cya before og walay educational attainment na ikapang hinambog.

    thats how things were...sa ako nahibal an.... I hope wala ko ni kontradict bisan kinsa... I dont want to preach... i just want to clarify this passage.

    for additional input goto:
    Online Parallel Bible: Weaving God's Word into the Web check out the commentaries from bible scholars
    Wa man sayop ang human interpretation sa Bible, bisag Bible Scholars pa na mo interpret, still human interpretation ghapon na. That's why, there is nothing wrong actually on the interpretation sa Bible about the Second Coming of Christ. Ang question ani, what will be the true Second Coming, ky kaning sa Bible, wa pa man nahitabo, ang sa mga naay Christ Consciousness, which is the consciousness that Jesus has, niabot naman si Christ nila. So asa man diay ang tinood nga Second Coming ani ron?

  8. #108
    My singular desire to discern rightly the true meaning of Christ's words was given wondrous confirmation one night during a period when I was working on these interpretations. It was in Hermitage at Encinitas, California. I was sitting in my darkened room in meditation, praying deeply from my soul, when suddenly the blackness gave way to a celestial opal-blue effulgence. The entire room was like an opal flame. In that light the radiant form the blessed Lord Jesus appeared.

    His face was divine. His appearance was of a young man in his twenties, with sparse beard and moustache. His long black hair, parted in the middle, had a golden light about it. His feet were not touching the floor. His eyes were the most beautiful, the most loving eyes I have ever seen. The whole universe I saw glistening in those eyes. They were infinitely changing, and with each transition of expression I intuitively understood the wisdom conveyed. In his glorious eyes I felt the power that upholds and commands the myriad world.

    As he gazed down at me, a Holy Grail appeared at his mouth. It descended to my lips and touched them, then went up again to Jesus. After a few moments of rapt silent communion, he said to me: "Thou dost drink of the same cup of which I drink".

    At that I bowed down. I was joyous beyond dreams to receive the testimony of his blessings, of his presence. Exactly the words he said to me in this vision he also said to Thomas, which I never read before. His words meant that I was drinking of his wisdom through the Holy Grail of his preceptions which he has dropped in my consciousness, and he was pleased. He approved very dearly and blessed me for writing these interpretations. This I can say without pride, because the interpretation of Christ's words herein (refering to the book) is not mine. It has been given to me. I am happy this book is coming through me, but I am not the author. It is Christ. I am only the vehicle through which it is explained.

    I hear Christ in the land of my inspiration. I behold Christ speaking to me all the eternal wisdom he intended to convey within his pregnant words.


    The Second Coming Christ: The Resurrection of the Christ Within You
    by Paramahansa Yogananda

  9. #109
    The Resurrection of the Christ Within You
    I agree with you but there is a more appropriate or more practical interpretation to this.

    and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
    Mathew 28:20
    Means that Christ will never abandon us even till the end of time. You and me have felt Christ in our hearts his infinite and incromprehensible love.

    But the Coming of Christ is actually described in the Bible and very simple.
    This is HOW Christ would come.
    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
    Revelation 1:7
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    1 Thessalonians 4:16
    The manner or the timing of his comming is described in this verse:
    For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
    1 Thessalonians 5:2-4
    He is comming when the right time has come and people least expects it and nobody on this earth knows that time. And when he comes he comes in Glory.

    His face was divine. His appearance was of a young man in his twenties, with sparse beard and moustache. His long black hair, parted in the middle, had a golden light about it. His feet were not touching the floor. His eyes were the most beautiful, the most loving eyes I have ever seen. The whole universe I saw glistening in those eyes. They were infinitely changing, and with each transition of expression I intuitively understood the wisdom conveyed. In his glorious eyes I felt the power that upholds and commands the myriad world.
    Be careful of your imaginations.
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Mathew 24:24
    It may be pleasing to the eye and senses but you must think about these doctrines of your religion if these are a contradiction to the Bible.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 10-22-2009 at 12:53 PM.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    unsaon pag ayo bro nga dili naman gani musidlak ang adlaw...

    Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    extraordinary things na ang mahitabo inig balik ni Jesus Christ. dili na kinahanglan ayuhon pa.

    mangutana pud diay ko bro, unsa nga verse sa Bible bro nga ayuhon ni Jesus Christ ang kalibutan inig balik niya?
    Di man siguro pasabot nga ang earth ana nga time is non-habitable ... sun will be darkened because of the eruption of the volcanoes .. kanang mga Falling Stars ug mo igo na sa Earth wagtang ang earth .. ang assumption ana is Meteors .....

    Ayohon sa Ginoo ang Earth bro ...

    Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and the sea no longer is.

    mao na mahitabo after the Tribulation then Christ will rule in Earth for 1000 years ... pls correct me if im wrong.

    After 1000 yers buhian napod sa Ginoo ang kalibotan and Satan will rule eath napod ... and sunod ambot lang...mao na siguro na ang the Final Judgement.

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