Why Humans Believe in God

[bluedes]

because all of you are hinging yourself into meaning. religion or not, believe in god or not.

and the_child speaks..

people claim there is no meaning in life, yet they keep on living.. pretending there is no purpose/meaning in what they do..

what a severe form of denial..

The condition of being alive doesn't have to have meaning. So there is no irony to that, nor is it preposterous.

Yes, fear is ingrained. Biology teaches this, so why is it preposterous?

-RODION

You are right. People are happy because they indeed have something to run to--religion.

I'm not "waiting for the day to fade." I do stuff that makes me happy and make other people happy. But it doesn't have to have meaning. I do what I do, because I can do it.

I'm not settling for anything less--I'm living my life to the fullest, doing the things I can do. I am happier nowadays compared to the times when I had religion in my life, and I believe this is because at the moment, I'm the one in control of my life. Self-determinism is an important factor in self-awareness and the freedom from fear of the unknown.

-RODION

you can keep on saying that life is meaningless, but the fact that you keep on living (not because you can, but you must..) pretty much goes against the very notion of life as meaningless.

again, personally, that's kind of hypocritical (and selfish) to say that life is meaningless. it would all go back to the question "why are you still alive?" if life is truly meaningless, obviously, there is no point to living -- and logic would state that you can very well choose to die too.. yet not having made that choice so far only proves the point that life has meaning indeed.. otherwise you'd certainly see living things willfully ending their own life by choice all the time (but rarely--heroically as they say--unless it preserves their own line, which ironically again proves that life has purpose and meaning)..

and fear has no place in biology.. i dont know where you've read that, but that's a misnomer..
intelligence is what makes a living thing survive, not fear. sometimes, intelligence is misconstrued as fear. when a living thing avoids something, it does not mean it fears it, it simply means that its smart enough to avoid it because it knows that if it goes head on, it will surely perish if it continues to do so. that's why its called "adaptation".. you don't vanquish your enemy.. you bend as the bamboo bends with the wind to avoid breaking itself against nature.

on the contrary, although something that fears will adapt for the time being, sooner or later it will perish under its own fear. intelligence does not do that..

[The_Child]

to be alive, or to choose to be, does not mean one is hinged on meaning. that is an age old assumption.
what is meaning in the first place?
meaning is not inherited, nor is it given, it is created to hide its own emptiness.


meaninglessness is meaning in the beginning, implode a little bit more and there is just nothing. Nir-vana. Nothing.

there is no meaning.

(how do you do that jester emoticon again ? it always escapes me)

[regnauld]

Fear is another major factor. All creatures, especially sentient beings, are wired to fear the unknown, because avoiding the unknown increases the chances for self preservation. Thus the creation of the concept of a divine entity helps to fill that big black gaping hole of unknown and make humans feel at ease with the world better than a situation where there is no "plug" to that hole.

-RODION

you are even a god. how come you dont believe in yourself...a god?

[bluedes]

to be alive does not mean, or to choose to be alive, does not meaning one is hinged on meaning. that is an age old assumption.
what is meaning in first place?
meaning is not inherited, nor is it given, it is created to hide its own emptiness.


meaninglessness is meaning in the beginning, implode a little bit more and there is just nothing. Nir-vana. Nothing.

there is no meaning.

(how do you do that jester emoticon again ? it always escapes me)

oh, i forgot the premise that each creates its own meaning in that meaningful sense..

but you're applying deconstruction here.. and i'm not going that far..

in the end, there is no meaning, because nothing exists except God..
but why go there when life is still so much fun living..

[colon] jest [colon]

[Existanz]

to be alive, or to choose to be, does not mean one is hinged on meaning. that is an age old assumption.
what is meaning in the first place?
meaning is not inherited, nor is it given, it is created to hide its own emptiness.


meaninglessness is meaning in the beginning, implode a little bit more and there is just nothing. Nir-vana. Nothing.

there is no meaning.

(how do you do that jester emoticon again ? it always escapes me)

Won't you agree that by posting these you inadvertently imply that it has no meaning and in a way you are only trying to hide your own emptiness? hehehe

[The_Child]

oh, i forgot the premise that each creates its own meaning in that meaningful sense..

but you're applying deconstruction here.. and i'm not going that far..

in the end, there is no meaning, because nothing exists except God..
but why go there when life is still so much fun living..

[colon] jest [colon]

im not deconstructing, but something of the same vein though.
but even god doesnt exist, blue

and all of us are sure of that.

which is exactly why life is fun, when there is no God all is possible, dostoevsky?


cheers!

[Existanz]

to be alive, or to choose to be, does not mean one is hinged on meaning. that is an age old assumption.
what is meaning in the first place?
meaning is not inherited, nor is it given, it is created to hide its own emptiness.


meaninglessness is meaning in the beginning, implode a little bit more and there is just nothing. Nir-vana. Nothing.

there is no meaning.

(how do you do that jester emoticon again ? it always escapes me)

Won't you agree that by posting these you inadvertently imply that it has no meaning and in a way you are only trying to hide your own emptiness? hehehe

edit --> [JEST] JEST [/JEST]

[bluedes]

Won't you agree that by posting these you inadvertently imply that it has no meaning and in a way you are only trying to hide your own emptiness? hehehe

all this meaning talk..

one thing's for sure.. a lot of people are unaware that they are alive.. and most of all, a subset of that is unaware they are humans too. its kinda sad..

[bluedes]

im not deconstructing, but something of the same vein though.
but even god doesnt exist, blue

and all of us are sure of that.

which is exactly why life is fun, when there is no God all is possible, dostoevsky?


cheers!

but you are deconstructing everything..

and precisely I can also say when there is God all is possible..

[The_Child]

Won't you agree that by posting these you inadvertently imply that it has no meaning and in a way you are only trying to hide your own emptiness? hehehe

if you agree with my statement, then why bother for an implication? whether it is my emptiness or not, ( i dare not pierce through the abyss of my own soul) it does not change the point of meaninglessness. to attempt to use the unconscious in one's advantage leads one to fall into his own dark pit he himself dug.