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  1. #421

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
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    yes its a FACT that it was invented and i even read the classic book of DANTE "PURGATORIO" which is full of symbolic interpretation. The church owes DANTE a lot because of that book and not because of the bible!
    the video does not talk about symbols nor that book of DANTE what ever..

  2. #422
    wla jud koy idea ani da....

  3. #423
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    talk about simala scandal.. tsk3x...

    hmm.. nindut jud ni ikaw kuno authority sa simbahan.. you can do anything pretty much anything you want ang get away with it.. apil na ang pangawat, pambabae and you name it, they do it.. hinoun. syaro dili mahadlok ang mo kontra.. pila ra pagingon nga you are an enemy of God if you dont follow us..

    the history of the catholic church is riddled by corruption and massive indoctrination of the masses..
    and many brilliant men got killed because the challenged the church..
    there are even less than holy people sitting as popes in the past..

    kung wala sila nag invent sa porgatoryo, dili sila mka pangau kwarta para misa..
    naa pa gani SALE of indulgences before where your sins are forgiven after a monetary penalty..


    if GOD is to heaven and Satan as to hell.. then who owns purgatory? dont tell me si GOD and si Satan has another war front besides the earth..

    the catholic church is a corrupted form of christianity.. it all began when pagan cultures were assimilated into it.. (have you ever wonder why the holy father is depicted having the same appearance as zeus?)

    clearly ato difinition sa afterlife is modeled after dante's potrayal of the afterlife.. and his imagination is due to the inventions of the church...

    if i remember correctly, there was a bishop who told martin luther that the pope's authority is beyond that of the bible.. clearly aha man nya gikuha iya idea?

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    isnt it the church who got dr. jose rizal got shot in the first place? simply because he spoke about their corruption and indoctrination of the poor masses.
    1. if unsa man ang nahitabo sa simala that doesn't mean that the head church is just sitting duck..

    2. corrupt or not thats not the church it's the one's who governs it so don't generalize kay deli man tanan.

    3. watch the video i gave para matubag ka anang imo twisted nga opinoin kay lahi ra ang imo opinion kaysa sa tinuod nga purpose ana. although deli mana malikyan nga naa jud muabusar but that doesnt mean tanan ang nagbuhat. its typical problem sa usa ka organization or group, ug wala pay maaung laki nakasulbad ani until now.

    4. you should watch the video it did not say anything about dante's ideas lolz.

    5. hmmmm speaking of pagan before there was christianity, jewish, muslim, bla bla bla.. deli ba pagan ug lain ang religion sa una?.. so which did your religion belong? i bet wala ana dha ako gimention, oh let me guess you belong to God Himself?..

    6. "if i remember correctly, there was a bishop who told martin luther that the pope's authority is beyond that of the bible.. clearly aha man nya gikuha iya idea?"
    can you give me some articles about this claim?..

  4. #424
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Purgatory is a just symbolic and not literal just like in dantes book and nothing else!
    may be you should read more books other than that of Dante. para deli mastuck imo knowledge on some old school ideas.

    better watch this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk-Ck...eature=related

  5. #425
    Si St. Jerome is considered to be the first Translator of Bible mao na ang gitawag nga Vulgate mao na ang first Bible sa Roman Catholic correct me if im wrong ...

    Karon St. Jerome did not Include the Apocryphal Books since accordingly it is not Authentic, questionable ang mga Author and then the teaching of this Book is misleading a contradictory to the teaching of Jesus Christ. The Apocryphal Book is not Inspired by God. The Reason its been canonized during the council of trent in 1546 AD because of Certain Catholic Doctrines that Includes PURGATORY.

    PURGATORY is purely a Dogmatic Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church which is Against the Doctrine of Christianity.
    Last edited by amingb; 10-19-2009 at 01:58 PM.

  6. #426
    Claro kaau nga corrupted and Roman Catholic Church ... ang pangutana ngano mana gi apil man intown na nila ang Apocryphal Books sa Catholic Bible .. dako kaau sila ug tulubagon ana sa Ginoo. The Septuagint Version and The Vulgate did not Include the Apocryphal Books.

    Accordingly Before the death of Constantine the Roman Catholic church is on the right Direction. Its been corrupted after his death gigamit naman gud ni iyaha mga successor for Politics.

    Ug wala pa unta na corrupt ang Roman catholic nindota unta sa kalibotan karon ...

  7. #427
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Si St. Jerome is considered to be the first Translator of Bible mao na ang gitawag nga Vulgate mao na ang first Bible sa Roman Catholic correct me if im wrong ...
    hmmmmm it's the 70 rabbis..

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Karon St. Jerome did not Include the Apocryphal Books since accordingly it is not Authentic, questionable ang mga Author and then the teaching of this Book is misleading a contradictory to the teaching of Jesus Christ. The Apocryphal Book is not Inspired by God. The Reason its been canonized during the council of trent in 1546 AD because of Certain Catholic Doctrines that Includes PURGATORY.

    PURGATORY is purely a Dogmatic Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church which is Against the Doctrine of Christianity.
    hmmmmm apil bya sa pagtranslate asa kaman kabaw ana nga wala niya giapil?.. contradictory YES in the Jewish doctrice for those 7 books be tested too much that Jesus was the messiah(not what their doctrine said).. so mao nang wala giapil sa Jews ang 7 books plus those books are not recorded in Hebrews language but Greek samot deli jud dawaton.. asta ang NEW TESTAMENT wala nila gidawat(alangan Greek man ang authors lolz) which is unfair

    2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice. NEW TESTAMENT

    so mao nahimo ang religion nga Christians dere nagsugod tanan sprout ang lain division of christian..

    if ang maccabees ra ang nibother nimo bro try to watch this video deli raman maccabees ang gibasehan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk-Ck...eature=related
    Last edited by dartzed; 10-19-2009 at 03:47 PM.

  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Claro kaau nga corrupted and Roman Catholic Church ... ang pangutana ngano mana gi apil man intown na nila ang Apocryphal Books sa Catholic Bible .. dako kaau sila ug tulubagon ana sa Ginoo. The Septuagint Version and The Vulgate did not Include the Apocryphal Books.

    Accordingly Before the death of Constantine the Roman Catholic church is on the right Direction. Its been corrupted after his death gigamit naman gud ni iyaha mga successor for Politics.

    Ug wala pa unta na corrupt ang Roman catholic nindota unta sa kalibotan karon ...
    2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice.

    this particular passage ang gibasehan sa simbahan bro. but deli na mahimong official if contradicting sa other scriptures right?.. but thats too bad for you guys kay its not contradicting at all..

  9. #429
    ako nabaw-an ang Apocrypha gisuwat sa time na wala daw mga prophet sa Israel mao wala gi consider sa mga protestant na "inspired"

  10. #430
    yeah... apochrypal books were written during the silent years... there was no prophet at that time and God was silent... it was not considered as inspired....

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