Cults Rising

[Red.Emano]

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Ops...Stop right there Xiao-Xiao. I thought you were somehow an expert in Roman Catholicism. Have you even read the Vatican's Stand on other Religions?

"TOLERANCE TO ALL"...Ok?

Dili man na sila culto ang INC and MORMON, otherwise dugay na na sila nangaon ug tao. Ma priso baya ka ana bei.

Cult Definition by Merriam-Webster:
great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book) ; especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

[freelancers13]

@ xiao-xiao: is the message supposed to have come from the Virgin Mary? from one of the "visions" of Veronica Leuken? If this is one of them, I suggest you put this in consideration:

"According to various Catholic sources, the Bayside visitations do not fulfill criteria that would qualify the alleged events as legitimate Marian apparitions and so are unrecognized. Skeptics and detractors[who?] maintain that such visitations are supposed to remain private visitations without publicity.[citation needed] and no Marian apparition from Our Lady of the Snows to Our Lady of Walsingham to Our Lady of Fatima occurred without publicity. Some argue that Lueken's visions would qualify as a psychological phenomenon known as pareidolia, in which anthropomorphic forms are witnessed in alleged surface formations on various objects.[citation needed] There is no medical evidence for this opinion.

In addition to these concerns, the Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn at the time of the alleged apparitions, Bishop Francis Mugavero, made the following declaration on November 4, 1986:[1]

I, the undersigned Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn, in my role as the legitimate shepherd of this particular Church, wish to confirm the constant position of the Diocese of Brooklyn that a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged "visions of Bayside" completely lacked authenticity.
...Therefore, in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I hereby declare that:
1. No credibility can be given to the so-called "apparitions" reported by Veronica Lueken and her followers.
2. The "messages" and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an "imposter (sic) Pope" governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI.

At the Eternal Word Television Network, Father Mark Gantley, JCL, has clarified that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document related to "Proceeding in Judging Alleged Apparitions and Revelations" in 1974. Initially, a Diocesan Bishop is enabled to investigate the phenomenon in question. After he has completed his scrutiny, he may or may not ask for assistance from national Catholic Bishops Conferences, or refer the matter to the Vatican. For further information, consult the entry on Marian apparitions.

Some Catholic critics have even suggested that the apparitions might have been the work of the devil (it should be borne in mind that such accusations are routinely made against Marian visionaries by critics). For details, see Michael Cuneo THE SMOKE OF SATAN, listed in bibliography

St Michael's World Apostolate (see below) has brought forth arguments which seriously question the credibility of Bishop Mugavero's negative judgment of the Bayside apparitions. These arguments come from the claim that the Vatican's guidelines for judging apparitions were not followed by the Brooklyn Diocese, no example of doctrinal error has ever been produced by the diocese, and Veronica Lueken was never questioned by any member of an investigative committee from the diocese. See: http://www.smwa.org/documents/Bayside_The_Facts_Revealed/Bayside_Facts_Revealed.html"

from: Veronica Lueken - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe that in order for us to TRULY ascertain things, we must get BOTH sides of the story. How one comes up with the conclusion and what it is is entirely up to you but let us try to be objective.

[Red.Emano]

@ xiao-xiao: is the message supposed to have come from the Virgin Mary? from one of the "visions" of Veronica Leuken? If this is one of them, I suggest you put this in consideration:

"According to various Catholic sources, the Bayside visitations do not fulfill criteria that would qualify the alleged events as legitimate Marian apparitions and so are unrecognized. Skeptics and detractors[who?] maintain that such visitations are supposed to remain private visitations without publicity.[citation needed] and no Marian apparition from Our Lady of the Snows to Our Lady of Walsingham to Our Lady of Fatima occurred without publicity. Some argue that Lueken's visions would qualify as a psychological phenomenon known as pareidolia, in which anthropomorphic forms are witnessed in alleged surface formations on various objects.[citation needed] There is no medical evidence for this opinion.

In addition to these concerns, the Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn at the time of the alleged apparitions, Bishop Francis Mugavero, made the following declaration on November 4, 1986:[1]

I, the undersigned Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn, in my role as the legitimate shepherd of this particular Church, wish to confirm the constant position of the Diocese of Brooklyn that a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged "visions of Bayside" completely lacked authenticity.
...Therefore, in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I hereby declare that:
1. No credibility can be given to the so-called "apparitions" reported by Veronica Lueken and her followers.
2. The "messages" and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an "imposter (sic) Pope" governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI.

At the Eternal Word Television Network, Father Mark Gantley, JCL, has clarified that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document related to "Proceeding in Judging Alleged Apparitions and Revelations" in 1974. Initially, a Diocesan Bishop is enabled to investigate the phenomenon in question. After he has completed his scrutiny, he may or may not ask for assistance from national Catholic Bishops Conferences, or refer the matter to the Vatican. For further information, consult the entry on Marian apparitions.

Some Catholic critics have even suggested that the apparitions might have been the work of the devil (it should be borne in mind that such accusations are routinely made against Marian visionaries by critics). For details, see Michael Cuneo THE SMOKE OF SATAN, listed in bibliography

St Michael's World Apostolate (see below) has brought forth arguments which seriously question the credibility of Bishop Mugavero's negative judgment of the Bayside apparitions. These arguments come from the claim that the Vatican's guidelines for judging apparitions were not followed by the Brooklyn Diocese, no example of doctrinal error has ever been produced by the diocese, and Veronica Lueken was never questioned by any member of an investigative committee from the diocese. See: http://www.smwa.org/documents/Bayside_The_Facts_Revealed/Bayside_Facts_Revealed.html"

from: Veronica Lueken - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe that in order for us to TRULY ascertain things, we must get BOTH sides of the story. How one comes up with the conclusion and what it is is entirely up to you but let us try to be objective.

Dili bei! you are son of Satan bei! Bakak na! Saba dinha freelancers! Tinood ni ingon ni Veronica! Nagpakita gyud ang Mama Mary sa iyaha! Bei! Bahala dili ko mo too! I'm just here to help! Pag repent na mo bei! Gi disprove ra na sa mga bishop ug uban orders kay dili gyud sila mo atubang kadtong times nga nangita mi ug approval sa church authorities, dili sila mo duol para mag investigate! Saba bei! hahaha...ako gi awat kung unsa ang naa sa huna huna ni xiao xiao..

[baliguat]

For me pre, i dont want to judge, kay bisag ako di basta mo too sa mga butang nga imposible kay atong huna huna-on nga bisag ang Yawa maka himo gihapon sa gitawag natog MELAGRO!

@RedEmano----> Pre, Sa Story gani ni Saint Bernadeth wala xa tuhu-e ug basta basta sa Church kay mismo ang Church di basta basta nga maka approve kung unsay mga melagro diha. Kay ipaagi jud na sa taas na process.. Kay sultihan ta ka pre bisag maka kita ko. di gihapon ko basta moto-o..

[Red.Emano]

For me pre, i dont want to judge, kay bisag ako di basta mo too sa mga butang nga imposible kay atong huna huna-on nga bisag ang Yawa maka himo gihapon sa gitawag natog MELAGRO!

@RedEmano----> Pre, Sa Story gani ni Saint Bernadeth wala xa tuhu-e ug basta basta sa Church kay mismo ang Church di basta basta nga maka approve kung unsay mga melagro diha. Kay ipaagi jud na sa taas na process.. Kay sultihan ta ka pre bisag maka kita ko. di gihapon ko basta moto-o..

mao gyud! sakto! hahaha!
let the light shine forth in the hearts of men for thine is the glory and the power is yours!

[angelo_charles]

no comment

[Hellblazer 2.1]

haw-shaw jud ni si xiao-xiao. hehehe.

[[PROTOTYPE]]

kanang UNO nga networking ai.. kulto mana

[regnauld]

Close this thread! This will only promote BIGOTRY and INTOLERANCE of all relgions!

What's the point of this thread?

[hizuka007]

good and evil, murag kingkuy