Kenya witchcraft- another terrifying human act

[kebotDiNaMute]

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yeah, i agree.. like i said, i got that excerpt from the post..

but its still too much or extreme to go burning people for "witchcraft"..

lahi man na ang snatcher or robber, we have snatchers/robbers here who kill for cellphone, and being a tribal society, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. sentiments of the people is that they will want those robbers dead too..

but witchcraft? that's basically hocus pocus and its pretty much like the inquisition who tortured out of "zealous faith" which is similar to that happening in Kenya.. thus the Christian analogy.

Brad, it all boils that to:

"What you believe dictates how you behave".

religion usually gives you a good focus on what is good and bad. Therefore good religion gives you good insight bad religion gives you the otherway around. So, If you don't want religion to dictate these moral standard... for sure, you can never be higher than what the good religion offers.

so what you think they are doing? higher or lower? hmmm..

i wonder if you guys have a chain gun at hand and saw what was happening... probably more people will die... because you guys are already sold out they also deserve to die. So what difference does it make between u and them? tsk tsk tsk.

[Existanz]

yeah, i agree.. like i said, i got that excerpt from the post..

but its still too much or extreme to go burning people for "witchcraft"..

lahi man na ang snatcher or robber, we have snatchers/robbers here who kill for cellphone, and being a tribal society, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. sentiments of the people is that they will want those robbers dead too..

but witchcraft? that's basically hocus pocus and its pretty much like the inquisition who tortured out of "zealous faith" which is similar to that happening in Kenya.. thus the Christian analogy.

Inquisition was of course both overzealousness and politics...but the case of Kenya is different. You, see for folks there witchcraft is 'real' as a man pointing his gun at your forehead, wanting to rob you of your cellphone. Witchcraft there is more than just a simple devil worship if we take it from a christian perspective but a potent weapon and a practice worthy to be scared of...at least for folks back there somewhere in Kenya it is as 'real' as the sun burning in their skin. Even before christianity came to this people, they're already at it burning suspected witches for every other reasons that witches were believe can do- cows dying of deases, droughts or crops rotting. Perhaps a simply case of rival witches or soothsayers trying to demolished each others business...even in politics chismis is such a rotten business strategy.

[Malic]

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

thank God for istorya.net and the S&O thread. We can freely express our heretical point of view.

[Malic]

Inquisition was of course both overzealousness and politics...but the case of Kenya is different. You, see for folks there witchcraft is 'real' as a man pointing his gun at your forehead, wanting to rob you of your cellphone. Witchcraft there is more than just a simple devil worship if we take it from a christian perspective but a potent weapon and a practice worthy to be scared of...at least for folks back there somewhere in Kenya it is as 'real' as the sun burning in their skin. Even before christianity came to this people, they're already at it burning suspected witches for every other reasons that witches were believe can do- cows dying of deases, droughts or crops rotting. Perhaps a simply case of rival witches or soothsayers trying to demolished each others business...even in politics chismis is such a rotten business strategy.

what is this? i see apathy between the lines. So you are actually implying that its okay to burn people? just asking.

[Existanz]

what is this? i see apathy between the lines. So you are actually implying that its okay to burn people? just asking.

Did you think that way because I'm a christian? If you already made up your mind what christian is like then there's no sense in explaining myself to you hehehe...use your symbolism jut-su technique to decipher what I'm trying to 'reveal'..hehe

Salam Sadiq..

[Existanz]

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

thank God for istorya.net and the S&O thread. We can freely express our heretical point of view.

Bwahaha...unsa man ni way name sa book nga gi-quote hehe..dali dali man gud. KJV bible version man na hehe..edit sa.

[kebotDiNaMute]

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

thank God for istorya.net and the S&O thread. We can freely express our heretical point of view.

Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
--- point here is that, the commandment states a full obedience to God or Die... there are no but and if's in their times. Again that was their times. It is said, that we are not under Laws but under Grace. this is the new COVENANT Malic just fyi. Old testament remains, true. If that happens to old testament, well it happen... there are more gruesome event than this one malic sadly, we already moved on to the new covenant.

Relax bro, I suggest you get your new testament book and start looking for flaws... Maybe you want to check the spelling if you want.

[bluedes]

Brad, it all boils that to:

"What you believe dictates how you behave".

you certainly bring out the *best* in what you believe in kebz.. congrats!

religion usually gives you a good focus on what is good and bad. Therefore good religion gives you good insight bad religion gives you the otherway around. So, If you don't want religion to dictate these moral standard... for sure, you can never be higher than what the good religion offers.

so what you think they are doing? higher or lower? hmmm..

i wonder if you guys have a chain gun at hand and saw what was happening... probably more people will die... because you guys are already sold out they also deserve to die. So what difference does it make between u and them? tsk tsk tsk.

huh? the fact that I think what they did was wrong directly contradicts the theory that they also deserve to die..

sorry kebz, i don't believe in death penalty or eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. it may be permeated into our tribal society, but i'm one of the *outcasts* of society also..

whatever the offense, whether its witchcraft or something else of equivalent nature, it does not deserve burning to death.

Inquisition was of course both overzealousness and politics...but the case of Kenya is different. You, see for folks there witchcraft is 'real' as a man pointing his gun at your forehead, wanting to rob you of your cellphone. Witchcraft there is more than just a simple devil worship if we take it from a christian perspective but a potent weapon and a practice worthy to be scared of...at least for folks back there somewhere in Kenya it is as 'real' as the sun burning in their skin. Even before christianity came to this people, they're already at it burning suspected witches for every other reasons that witches were believe can do- cows dying of deases, droughts or crops rotting. Perhaps a simply case of rival witches or soothsayers trying to demolished each others business...even in politics chismis is such a rotten business strategy.

err? you are pretty much contradicting your own point of view..

how is the case in Kenya different? people in the Inquisition believe so much that people who don't believe in Christ are agents of the devil, and therefore perceive them as a threat to the peace in their society or homes.. its pretty similar as having a neighbor come to your house with an *ulterior motive of robbing* you your chance to go to heaven..

the root cause of that incident in kenya is suspicion in the mind.. that creates all kinds of imaginary evil just like how the Inquisition did..

a person will not retaliate unless he (and part of that is his world-view) is threatened in one way or another, imaginary or not.. and people who dont know how to delineate what's real from the un-real (in the physical sense at least) mistakenly cross this line of retaliation most of the time.

[kebotDiNaMute]

you certainly bring out the *best* in what you believe in kebz.. congrats!



huh? the fact that I think what they did was wrong directly contradicts the theory that they also deserve to die..

sorry kebz, i don't believe in death penalty or eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. it may be permeated into our tribal society, but i'm one of the *outcasts* of society also..

whatever the offense, whether its witchcraft or something else of equivalent nature, it does not deserve burning to death.



err? you are pretty much contradicting your own point of view..

how is the case in Kenya different? people in the Inquisition believe so much that people who don't believe in Christ are agents of the devil, and therefore perceive them as a threat to the peace in their society or homes.. its pretty similar as having a neighbor come to your house with an *ulterior motive of robbing* you your chance to go to heaven..

the root cause of that incident in kenya is suspicion in the mind.. that creates all kinds of imaginary evil just like how the Inquisition did..

a person will not retaliate unless he (and part of that is his world-view) is threatened in one way or another, imaginary or not.. and people who dont know how to delineate what's real from the un-real (in the physical sense at least) mistakenly cross this line of retaliation most of the time.

how is the case in Kenya different? people in the Inquisition believe so much that people who don't believe in Christ are agents of the devil, and therefore perceive them as a threat to the peace in their society or homes.. its pretty similar as having a neighbor come to your house with an *ulterior motive of robbing* you your chance to go to heaven..
--- inquisition is about politics on the act of expanding territories, those who oppose will surely die, in the name of god... thats how they do it... we all know its not scriptural... as usual use religion to control people.
--- in the case of kenya, there is little we know, and yes its not about territorial expansion... so how are they different? i think its obvious. might want to ask how are they similar instead... hmmmm.. wrong question!

by the way, early christians were feed to the lions, burned at steak... tortured... because of faith. Question does it mean christians are killing each other? hmmm, i dont think so. Remember that christianity have an OFFSHOOT RELIGION - CULT, so can we label them christians? Think for a moment...

[Ger]

you certainly bring out the *best* in what you believe in kebz.. congrats!



huh? the fact that I think what they did was wrong directly contradicts the theory that they also deserve to die..

sorry kebz, i don't believe in death penalty or eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. it may be permeated into our tribal society, but i'm one of the *outcasts* of society also..

whatever the offense, whether its witchcraft or something else of equivalent nature, it does not deserve burning to death.

its good that youre not pro-death but dont take it out on religion... we're not for it as well just so you know...