Prostitution To Be Legalized...Pabor ba mo?

[mannyamador]

Not again. Look, I've already stated that I do not support legalization. I am saying that the idea should not be disregarded and that there are benefits which deserve serious consideration.

And I am saying that the idea should be disregarded as there is no justification for it. Same thing.

Rape and murder have clear victims whereas a financial arrangement between two consenting adults (prostitution) does not. Also when you mention drug peddling well......alcohol is a drug and has been legally regulated for hundreds of years!

This is the same answer that was refuted yesterday.

It makes a clear factual error. You claim that prostitution has no victim. I have shown that it DOES have victims. So your "answer" does not show why prostitution should be considered for legalization while murder, rape, child prostitution, etc. should not. Your argument still falls to reductio ad absurdum.

Prostitution, rape, murder, drug peddling.... you lump them all together as if they are all the same thing when in fact they are completely different issues. I would call this behavior scaremongering!

That's because ytou have failed to show why your claims about prostitution -- that it is old, ineradicable, can be regulated, and can earn the government income -- cannot also apply to these other crimes. If those are your justifications for considering legalization of prostitution, then these justifications also apply to rape, murder, and child prostitution. Bit since this is also absurd, your reasoning is faulty.

Reductio ad absurdum. Look it up.

And while you're at it, try to crime up with an answer. Or at least have the intellectual honesty to admit you are wrong.

[reptoid]

And I am saying that the idea should be disregarded as there is no justification for it. Same thing.



This is the same answer that was refuted yesterday.

It makes a clear factual error. You claim that prostitution has no victim. I have shown that it DOES have victims. So your "answer" does not show why prostitution should be considered for legalization while murder, rape, child prostitution, etc. should not. Your argument still falls to reductio ad absurdum.



That's because ytou have failed to show why your claims about prostitution -- that it is old, ineradicable, can be regulated, and can earn the government income -- cannot also apply to these other crimes. If those are your justifications for considering legalization of prostitution, then these justifications also apply to rape, murder, and child prostitution. Bit since this is also absurd, your reasoning is faulty.

Reductio ad absurdum. Look it up.

And while you're at it, try to crime up with an answer. Or at least have the intellectual honesty to admit you are wrong.

Let me state this clearly so there will be no misunderstanding.

I have laid out my rationale in a sensible and easily digestible manner. Your propensity toward evangelical style politics leads me to believe that you are as open to meaningful debate as are the Taliban. For you there is no right answer except your own and in your world he who shouts loudest is right. This you have made quite clear with your bombardment of this thread (and others) with a wall of text and numerous propagandist jpeg images so gaudy as to cause me to reach for my sunglasses.

I have no interset in a tit-for-tat with you and would rather spend my time communicating with people not afflicted with tunnel-vision. I will however leave you with one final piece of advice which is simply this.........

.......The print of page one on your copy of Latin for Dummies is surely worn out. Please consider buying a fresh one or at least turn the page.

[mannyamador]

I have laid out my rationale in a sensible and easily digestible manner. Your propensity toward evangelical style politics leads me to believe that you are as open to meaningful debate as are the Taliban.

Resorting to ad hominem arguments is sure sign that YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENTS. You should know better.

Since you can;t figure out what reductio ad absurdum means, I'd better leave you to your ignorance.

For the benefit of the rest, however, we should state the situation as it stands.

Claiming that prostitution is old, ineradicable, subject to manipulation by criminal gangs, can be regulated, and can be a source of tax revenue, does not justify legalization of prostitution. If it did, then we might as well legalize murder, rape, and child prositution because every one of those claims can eb said fopr these crimes as well.

To claim that prostitution has no victims is ridiculous. Prostitution has many victims. Thousands of women have their lives destroyed through prostitution. Millions of women are forced into this form of slavery every year.

[emow]

i strongly agree with mannyamador on this matter... how about the families destroyed by prostitution? It's just not a matter of two people consenting, it's also a matter of how many people affected by such actions. I know some people's families destroyed or damaged because their dad/ husbands rented a prostitute. If we legalize everything that is hard to eradicate (prostitution for example), then we should legalize drugs, graft and corruption, rugby, etc... no clear victims from prostitution? How about the prostitute, her family, the dad's family? If we say just legalize prostitution because its the most practical thing to do, then we should legalize killing people, its also practical in a different point of view (less pollution, less people to feed, less "criminals", etc...).

[reptoid]

@emow

Legalizing / regulating something which was formerly illegal does not absolve an individual of personal responsibility.

Attempts to stop prostitution have failed and leaving what is undoubtedly a highly lucrative underground industry (fronted by bikini bars and the like) under the sole control of people who probably don't have the welfare of their workers as a priority makes damage-control much harder than it needs to be. That is why it is prudent to study the facts as experienced by nations who have already taken this route, so we can make an informed choice.

[Wowowow]

di jud ni sakto mga bro! asa naman ang atong pagka.christian kung i.legalize ang prostitution?

[mannyamador]

Attempts to stop prostitution have failed and leaving what is undoubtedly a highly lucrative underground industry (fronted by bikini bars and the like) under the sole control of people who probably don't have the welfare of their workers as a priority makes damage-control much harder than it needs to be.

That's just repeating already-refuted arguments.

So what makes this different from doing the same about murder, rape, and child prostitution? Prostitution has victims too -- and it can be deadly. Why is this "prudence" to be done for prostitution and not for the other crimes? Emow has a good point and you have NOT addressed it.

[reptoid]

Manny, I know you've been feeling lonely since I dumped you, but that's no excuse for stalking me. Just cherish the good times we had together, try your best to be nice and I'm sure somebody special will come into your life one day soon.

----------------

[Vietcong696]

bsg illegal jud na ron, it still exist...lisod jud kau na i.obliterate ng prostitution, dli sd na m.obsolete...reality is, dghan jud kaayo palaotog, bsg mg.yaw2 pa ka ug morality dha, jesus taught this and that, allah here and that etc... bsg m.shagit pa ka, mura ra ka ug hangin, katong mga palaotog dili na maminaw nmu...

[karyo]

Usa ni sa pinakakaraan profession even before Christ, naa na ni ug di na gyud ni mawagtang bisan pa ug kanus-a. Legalizing this is a way of regulating the trade. In Singapore wherein prostitution is legal, a brothel owner need to register his/her "entertainers" with the authorities and they (girls) too will be given a license to "practice" by the government under the following conditions: 1) they should have scheduled & gov't prescribed check-up by a registered doctor 2) they should only practice their profession inside the brothel or within the designated red-light district 3) they should be of legal age 4) Use of condom is strictly enforced. Illegal protis, if caught, will be jailed & caned.

What's the impact? Less STD, less trafficking, etc....