Philippine TV Media is dragging Filipino Lives

[niblifar]

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I agree with most here that a lot of Filipino shows lack useful content and merit. The news shows also have nearly devolved to what essentially are tabloid news shows, and I don't understand why some cartoons have been Tagalog-dubbed either.

From what I've seen from TFC and GMA, they seem ethnocentric at times. It makes it seem if you don't use Tagalog, you are not a real Filipino. This view feels as if it is pervasive across the archipelago among the various ethnicities. Pretty much if you don't prescribe to their form of nationalism, you are not a Filipino. I've seen some shows making fun of Cebuanos with the various stereotypes and slurs. This angers and saddens me because it makes us seem like second-class citizens, no?

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The establishment of a national language is unfair to non-Tagalog ethnic groups, such as the Cebuanos, Ilocanos, and Hiligaynon. It creates an unnecessary divide among the citizens, relegating those to second-class citizentry. This elevates native Tagalog speakers above the other ethnicities creating strife.

Basically it fails to recognize the diversity of our country with the various cultures and ethnicities found throughtout the islands. A language is the lifeblood of a culture and with its demise follows the culture itself. The proliferation of Tagalog throughout the country due to its heavy influence in education and media hastens the extinction of other cultures in the Philippines. How many of us have non-Tagalog relatives that only speak Tagalog now?

Filipino is a neutral term for what is fundamentally and linguistically Tagalog. It can be viewed as a sort of invention to seem more politically correct. If you look at the grammar structure and lexicon of both, they are essentially same. It cannot be an amalgam of the other 9 major languages of the Philippines, among them being Cebuano and Ilocano, because the other languages differ too much in vocabulary and grammatically even if vocabulary from other languages are incorporated. It would have as much as an effect if Cebuano words were incorporated into American English. Cebuano speakers lacking proficiency in English would still not understand. This is because the languages of the Philippines are mutually unintelligible.

That is a property of a language. It is not understood by other speakers of other languages and as such, Filipinos err when they call the other languages of the Philippines dialects. Dialects imply one language and mutually intelligiblity among the dialects. An example would be Manila Tagalog, Batangas Tagalog, and the Marinduque Tagalog. The three are dialects and speakers of the three can understand each other.

Tagalog speakers do not understand Cebuano speakers, di ba? Therefore how can the two be dialects? They are not and it is insulting for our language to be called such because colloquially and in a non-linguist sense the term is used in a disparaging manner.

[BananaQ]

^ Yes, I agree regarding your views on language/dialect.

I also agree that it's better to not just dub those cartoons or whatever to Tagalog. Better in English.

@jesuschrist: Although I agree with your basic premise regarding language, ayaw lang sad na imong kalagot nga ilunod na nimong tibook Manila kay way ayo ang salida sa broadcast TV! Kalma lang oi. Tan-aw na lang ug DVD or cable TV or youtube.

[jesuschrist]

Ila man jud na ipamugos ang tagalog language, nga walay gamit! Dili na importante ang tagalog, abi naa sa manila ang central government. Dili himoon nga superior ang tagalog language komparar sa uban nga language sa mga isla. Sakto ang gi-ingon ni

niblifar: ..."The establishment of a national language is unfair to non-Tagalog ethnic groups, such as the Cebuanos, Ilocanos, and Hiligaynon. It creates an unnecessary divide among the citizens, relegating those to second-class citizentry. This elevates native Tagalog speakers above the other ethnicities creating strife.

Basically it fails to recognize the diversity of our country with the various cultures and ethnicities found throughtout the islands. A language is the lifeblood of a culture and with its demise follows the culture itself. The proliferation of Tagalog throughout the country due to its heavy influence in education and media hastens the extinction of other cultures in the Philippines."

Mao ni akong punto!

[peewee_toot]

^^mas maayu lgi kng ilahi2x na ang mga islands... kng unsa ang money dinha ky mo stay ra jd sa island. dili i-share sa whole philippines ky ang tga manila ra ang bulahan...

[bronson]

time out sa mga bro..

murag ang thread inyo naman gi himo ug ENGLISH > TAGALOG topic. Murag dili man siguro na mao ang topic sa thread. Although dili gyud ko ka basol ninyo nganu init kaayo ang mga bisaya sa mga tagalog kay medyo hilas gyud kasagaran sa ila pero dapat siguro mas mu act ta as mas edukado sa ilaha. Don't start to hate the language.

There is nothing wrong learning the language. It would be to your advantage having to speak different languages. Kung unsa man ang mas dali masabtan sa imo ka istorya, maoy gamita para magkasinabtanay mo. A mix of learning english, tagalog, and their local dialect(a must) should be basic.

On the topic:
Having more of the educational shows for kids instead of anime or some other cartoons would surely make a big difference(On FREE T.V.). And also less or NONE of those spanish type of drama series which mostly display ***, adultery, greed for money, and some other not so good example for the masses. Also Philippine drama is adapting this type of stories most of the time.

[jesuschrist]

^^mas maayu lgi kng ilahi2x na ang mga islands... kng unsa ang money dinha ky mo stay ra jd sa island. dili i-share sa whole philippines ky ang tga manila ra ang bulahan...

Sakto! pero murag wrong thread na ta bro LOL Sorry guys.

[KASAAC]

goodness...negosyo na bro wui kung wala kay baruganan natural ma influence jud ka nga masige nalang ug tan-aw ug TV...don't blame media for your actions be responsible wui! naunsa biya!

[rye736]

^^Start a Bisaya vs. Tagalog thread @jesuschrist...

[peewee_toot]

^^kuyawa pd ana nga thread oi. naa dj mag-away ana ba... hope wala...

[rye736]

eh... gisugdan naman niya... let's get it on!!! hahahaha...