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    The lost tomb of Jesus" BANNED in India

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    The lost tomb of Jesus ( Discovery Channel )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordecai_327 View Post
    Have it your way sir. Not relying on what Luke has written calls for a topic to be discussed on how can we trust his account and his caliber/credibility as a historian. And this will entail another topic to discuss. But as for me, I would rather believe an account of thorough investigation as what Luke stated and written rather than believe (no offense) on people of today whom which were never present during that time. That would lead me again to ask a question: what gives more weight, those people who have gone a thorough investigation of the accounts in the life of Jesus with still having the Apostles living during the time of the writing to confirm OR those people living too far away (a century or so) challenging the narrative accounts? This is a rhetorical question and you need not to answer.

    I think your call is somewhat bias. If you dont trust the scholars of today w/c has a more advance means of knowing w/c data is more reliable,how can you trust a primitive historian w/c sources are unkown to us.

    We dont need to call for another topic to be open. It is a common knowledge that Luke was never there when thaqt happened and besides what is written there is not as profound as what you like to project.

    read Acts 4:13, it is recorded in there that the Sanhedrin was impress of their COURAGE knowing that they were unschooled.No, the sanhedrin was not impress of the words coming out from their mouth but of the courage they showed. You mis-interpreted the verse.


    So again let us be practical in our approach...Can a fisherman write a profound theology? By the way some scholars would say that The Gospel of "John?" appears to have been written by a jewish theologian. A quack doctor cant write a profound book that deals with medicine right?

    then one more point...the authorship of the Gospel before Irenaus came to the picture was unkown.

    and looking inside the gospel it speaks that of someone who has been influenced by Gnosticism.
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    Was Jesus The Christ a Gnostic?

    First we must define what a genuine Gnostic is. The word comes from ancient Greek (Gnosis), and means Divine (i.e. Mystical / Spiritual) 'experiential' KNOWLEDGE of God (i.e. the “Supreme Power”, or the “ALL”). Thus a genuine Gnostic is one who has such “first-hand” Divine KNOWLEDGE of God (N.B. NOT mere 'beliefs', traditions, dogmas, and 'theories'!).

    The question is: was Jesus, Himself, a Gnostic? If what we are told in the Bible is actually true, then obviously Jesus must have been a Gnostic (i.e. having Divine 'Knowledge' of God), as must all the other great Prophets and Masters of the Hebrew Bible – not to mention the many other great Masters such as Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Zoroaster, Nanak, etc. etc. (if their scriptures are also true).

    To believe that God would only reveal Himself to one ‘ethnic clan’ (or ‘race’) of people (i.e. the Hebrews / Jews) demonstrates the typical blindness and ignorance of religion! It is claimed that the “Israelites” are the “chosen people of God.” This claim is, indeed, true – but again we have to understand what this name or “title” actually means in the ancient Hebrew. The term ISRAEL comes from three Hebrew roots: ’ish (= a Spiritual 'being' / 'human'); ra’eh (= 'seeing' / 'vision'); and ’el (= 'God' / 'Supreme Spirit'). Thus, when put together, the word (Is-ra-el) means: “Spiritual one(s) who SEE God.” From this explanation it should be quite obvious that the term does not apply to any particular ‘race’ or ‘clan’ of people, but to ALL those who SEE, and thus KNOW God, i.e. all genuine Gnostics / Mystics! So certainly the true ‘Israelites’ (Seers / Gnostics) are indeed the "chosen people of God"!

    Peace and Light!

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    basa na lang ug Gnostic Bible, mr.regnauld.

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    im planning to buy myself an aquarian gospel.

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