Evolution is now A FACT OF LIFE

[kebotDiNaMute]

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sir in science we don't misinterpret things. only the bible is misinterpreted by our pastors and members. we study, test and verify and make conclusions base on evidence and results. that is very important for any professional in our field. it would be like lying if we tamper evidence or when we hide our conclusions to defend our faith.

sir, when you said you cannot produce coffee with paper, you're oversimplifying the idea. evolution is a long process for changes to take effect. but the best proof of evolution is by observing and understanding the process in genetics.

correction sir, all the assumptions sa evolution are already proven today. i would be lying to my profession if i will dispute them because we can verify the results thru experimentation. all biologists that i have worked with share the idea that from the gene level we share a common ancestor. we have done many repeated experiments in the past and it is no doubt that that common ancestry is true.

sayop imong understanding ni darwin sir. daghan sa internet materials about evolution sir. i hope moread ka. misunderstood jud kaayo nimo ang evolution sir. open mind sa lang sir. ayaw sa gamita imong religious conviction kay maka blind man gud na sa kamatooran.

bless you sir

sir in science we don't misinterpret things
--- mistakes happen everytime sis, don't close on that possibilities... if you say theory is science then we have to examine right? Look at nebraska man, its not misinterpretation, its a deliberate lies. but, yes took some time to be called science... becareful...

we study, test and verify and make conclusions base on evidence and results
--- what happen if evidence does not support the claim? Evolution just simply DROP it.

evolution is a long process for changes to take effect. but the best proof of evolution is by observing and understanding the process in genetics.
--- well the frog prince is real afterall. You see, if you come to study about how cells work... yes its interdependent on each other... so who evolve first? chicken and egg problem... avoid these conclusion in science sis... in genetics, you are supposed to witness how things are programed and designed by intelligent being. If you truly believe in evolution without creation, then you better seek out the ORIGIN. So long, as there are no satisfactory explanation on this are sis, id rather believe in dogma, goes with it is a morality.

all the assumptions sa evolution are already proven today
--- geologic column never existed, carbon dating were never accurate based on the assumption of todays environment, if earth is truly million years, moon will be touching the surface of the earth.... one major flaw is the theoretic violation in Thermodynamics... Theory vs Universal LAW which one do you believe?

sayop imong understanding ni darwin sir. daghan sa internet materials about evolution sir. i hope moread ka
--- i believe in evolution sis, but with limit. we never witness a dog producing non dog. But evo claim a primate produce man... still a wrong assumption. Its wrong because if its true it can stand on its own.

ayaw sa gamita imong religious conviction kay maka blind man gud na sa kamatooran.
--- hmmm, you are half true half not TRUE. You see in a david cooperfield show, or a magician show, if you rely on what you have seen, of course you believe, but something tells you they are doing tricks on you.... Use that something... it helps also sis.
--- what truth again? there is nothing wrong with the dogma, only the people who believe it. dba? so i think its wrong to say using my dogma makes me a blind person, using my dogma makes me apreciate his greatness... glory and power. It's funny i still believe in these things... but ill take it, after all at the lowest point in your life, you wont be walking along.... you know someone who keeps your hope alive. don't close out on that hope... ITS WRONG!

All these things sis is not the issue of evolution but avoiding the Creator.

[donna_belle]

sir adaptive mechanisms in organisms have already been observed and tested. transitional fossils can enlighten you on it. but i know many people will object transitional fossils but even without transitional fossils, directed evolution can enable changes in an organisms traits in "guided natural selection" or protein engineering from bacteria to mammals. i had the privilege to visit this facility where tests of particular mammals were observed. https://www.dna20.com/index.php?pageID=65

bless you!

Thanks

"Evolution is about evolution: evolving of species"

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That's what ET believers want to make it all about, because speciation is as simple as altering breeding preferences. But the theory also says adaptive mechanisms created organs, and that CANNOT be demonstrated.

You can show common descent over time and that's it. You can't show mutation is random or selection for fitness is the ONLY purpose of designs.

Thanks...

mode off...

[Thugstaz Hustlaz]

sir adaptive mechanisms in organisms have already been observed and tested. transitional fossils can enlighten you on it. but i know many people will object transitional fossils but even without transitional fossils, directed evolution can enable changes in an organisms traits in "guided natural selection" or protein engineering from bacteria to mammals. i had the privilege to visit this facility where tests of particular mammals were observed. https://www.dna20.com/index.php?pageID=65

bless you!

hahayssssss...........


"a theory with mutually agreeing fossil evidence"

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Much of the public who find Darwinism plausible have been deceived both about what Darwinism is, and what the evidence is. I have friends who believe Darwinism simply because we know life evolved over time. However, that isn't all there is to Darwinism! It must also be true that RANDOM genetic changes generated useful material for natural selection, and those two ALONE are capable of creating organ systems -- THAT'S the real evidence gap.



i will fixed it here ....

[kebotDiNaMute]

sir adaptive mechanisms in organisms have already been observed and tested. transitional fossils can enlighten you on it. but i know many people will object transitional fossils but even without transitional fossils, directed evolution can enable changes in an organisms traits in "guided natural selection" or protein engineering from bacteria to mammals. i had the privilege to visit this facility where tests of particular mammals were observed. https://www.dna20.com/index.php?pageID=65

bless you!

Natural selection is observe sis, still there is a limit to that change. From a ape to man... thats what you have to prove. Don't push fossils sis... those don't qualify for examination you know why. The dates are bad, the appearance are all assumption. if birds come from dinosaur, they present transitional fossil called
Archaeopteryx


On Archaeopteryx, Astronomers, and Forgery



i had the privilege to visit this facility where tests of particular mammals were observed. https://www.dna20.com/index.php?pageID=65
--- sis, this is not an evolution evidence, in fact this is creation evidence... did you notice that there are intervention... hmmm.. i wonder why people didn't noticed the implication.

Until recently, the synthesis of individually designed genes was prohibitively expensive
https://www.dna20.com/index.php?pageID=65

[donna_belle]

sir in science we don't misinterpret things
--- mistakes happen everytime sis, don't close on that possibilities... if you say theory is science then we have to examine right? Look at nebraska man, its not misinterpretation, its a deliberate lies. but, yes took some time to be called science... becareful...

you dont know how careful we are sir. pwede mi mapriso sir for not being careful. agree ko nga there are times masayop ang science base sa imong example. sa genetics sir, where do you think we are mistaken? ang test to detemine ancestry is an ordinary experiment nowadays in many labs. in all the tests nga among ginahimo always gets to the same results over again. asa kaha dapit ang sayop namo sir?

--- what happen if evidence does not support the claim? Evolution just simply DROP it.

asa nga evidence sir? naa kay example sir? sa genetics man gud sir the proof of common ancestry cannot be dropped kay experiments always point to the same results. unsa pa jud diay kuwang sir?

--- well the frog prince is real afterall. You see, if you come to study about how cells work... yes its interdependent on each other... so who evolve first? chicken and egg problem... avoid these conclusion in science sis... in genetics, you are supposed to witness how things are programed and designed by intelligent being. If you truly believe in evolution without creation, then you better seek out the ORIGIN. So long, as there are no satisfactory explanation on this are sis, id rather believe in dogma, goes with it is a morality.

hala ka diha sir oy, mosuggest na nuon ka ka nga di ko motoo og genetics? ka bad nimo sir oy. daghan kaayog natabang ang genetics sa medicine sir.

wa man ko mag ingon sir nga ang evolution walay Ginoo. laina pod ana nga statement sir oy. i am a christian like you. i read the bible everyday. i just dont agree with the interpretation of genesis.

--- geologic column never existed, carbon dating were never accurate based on the assumption of todays environment, if earth is truly million years, moon will be touching the surface of the earth.... one major flaw is the theoretic violation in Thermodynamics... Theory vs Universal LAW which one do you believe?

sir before you can conclude that they are wrong, have you personally visited a lab or even studied personally if they were wrong? i can tell you sir nga i have personally done the experiments myself unsaon man gyud nga tinood man gyud. alang alang mamakak gyud ko nga mao man gyud ang results?

thermodynamics is covered in our physics class. thermodynamics 1 & 2. as far as i know sir compatible ang law of thermodynamics sa evolution using statistical mechanics. familiar ka ani sir?

--- i believe in evolution sis, but with limit. we never witness a dog producing non dog. But evo claim a primate produce man... still a wrong assumption. Its wrong because if its true it can stand on its own.

dili man kinahanglan mo witness ka personally sa usa ka evolving organism sir. kung mangita ta sa truth ato jud nang imbestigaron, di ba sir? daghan naman gud ang investigations nga na proven na sir nagbalik balik naman gani ang mga results. naa man gani directed evolution sir. as for my field in medical technology ang common ancestry is dili na gyud ma deny.

--- hmmm, you are half true half not TRUE. You see in a david cooperfield show, or a magician show, if you rely on what you have seen, of course you believe, but something tells you they are doing tricks on you.... Use that something... it helps also sis.

hala sir oy. imo pasabot nga sayop among observation? sayup among nakita? sayop among process? sa asa dapita sir? ka lain nimo sir oy kay murag your suggesting that we are stupid professionals or liars. asa kaha mi nasayop sir?

--- what truth again? there is nothing wrong with the dogma, only the people who believe it. dba? so i think its wrong to say using my dogma makes me a blind person, using my dogma makes me apreciate his greatness... glory and power. It's funny i still believe in these things... but ill take it, after all at the lowest point in your life, you wont be walking along.... you know someone who keeps your hope alive. don't close out on that hope... ITS WRONG!

All these things sis is not the issue of evolution but avoiding the Creator.

i admire you for that sir. pero what if sayop atong dogma or sayop atong mga pastors? motoo diay ta nila? ngano diayg motoo ta og evolution nya motoo pod ta ni God dili diay pwede?

bless you sir!

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

umm.... kini ako nahibaw-an base on gens type.. ang nearest na relative sa dog kay dili fox kund dili bear...

ang mammoth kay dili relative sa elphant.. ambi nako ni-evolve nag mammoth into an elephant dili diay... kay lahi ra diay na sila na family...

ug ang crocodile wala ni evolve.. sukad pa sa una ingon an na iya itsura... basin iya na achive highest form kay "perfect" specie na siya...



kana ako nahibaw-an sa sige ug tan-aw ug national geographic ug discovery channel...

mutuo man ko sa evolution... but as of now even ang phylogeny kay dili pa man gud perfect... ang pagkuha sa data kay dili pa kaayo perfect..

[Ger]

i admire you for that sir. pero what if sayop atong dogma or sayop atong mga pastors? motoo diay ta nila? ngano diayg motoo ta og evolution nya motoo pod ta ni God dili diay pwede?

bless you sir!

...now thats what i wanna hear... hey! if theyre not against us, theyre for us! thats how we christians live [looking at atheist in the periphery]

[donna_belle]

hahayssssss...........


"a theory with mutually agreeing fossil evidence"

^

Much of the public who find Darwinism plausible have been deceived both about what Darwinism is, and what the evidence is. I have friends who believe Darwinism simply because we know life evolved over time. However, that isn't all there is to Darwinism! It must also be true that RANDOM genetic changes generated useful material for natural selection, and those two ALONE are capable of creating organ systems -- THAT'S the real evidence gap.


i will fixed it here ....

guided natural selection sir and protein engineering can answer you. try search "directed evolution" sir kay the answers are there.

when you said: "It must also be true that RANDOM genetic changes generated useful material for natural selection, and those two ALONE are capable of creating organ systems -- THAT'S the real evidence gap. "

sir care to explain how you arrived with that conclusion on the evidence gap?

[donna_belle]

...now thats what i wanna hear... hey! if theyre not against us, theyre for us! thats how we christians live [looking at atheist in the periphery]

Thank you sir. i'm a proud christian but i am not ashamed of my convictions for evolution. i hope all christians will have an open mind and heart to study evolution. my dad who is a biogist-doctor and i are supporters of BioLogos Foundation (The BioLogos Foundation) - through this foundation we can unite science and christian faith.

gtg sa kow kay napa ko lakaw i will come back when i have time. thank you kaayo for allowing me to share my ideas.

God bless you all.

[schmuck]

asa naman to si kebot oi :looks around:

hi belle! wafa au ka weeeeeeee